Nigel Latta parenting show TV1 tonight.

[Forest]

A quick follow-up to the story about the Ribena stain.

I have just posted my friend a very large wooden spoon.

[Pussy]

When some parents say "Little Tarquin is just expressing himself" as an excuse for their kid being a little shit... why can't I express myself with a boot up Tarquin's clacker??

[wbks]

I'm curious as to why people so visciously oppose the anti - smacking stuff? Do you think your kids will grow up "wrong" because you didn't smack them?

[PrincessBandit]

I'm curious as to why people so visciously oppose the anti - smacking stuff? Do you think your kids will grow up "wrong" because you didn't smack them?

Thread hi-jack, thread hi-jack!!! lol

I'm all for allowing kids to be creative in their learning - in their own homes, not mine! If parents allow their miniature Michaelangelos to draw all over the walls in their house to express themselves I have no problem with that at all. I do have a major problem with them thinking they can do it in my house.

Teaching respect for other peoples things is important. While the expression that people like to bandy around here "Respect is earned, not a right" may hold true in the adult world, it has to be taught to children.

[ynot slow]

Mind you mostly kids are an absolute image of their parents at functions.If the parents have no idea of boundaries,how the hell are kids supposed to know them.

Never recall getting belted,sure probably got the odd smack but obviously learned from mistakes.

[Ms Piggy]

I firmly believe in explaining stuff to children - and listening to them. Then as the parent you decide.

I hear what you're saying about making the effort and taking time with your kids when it comes to discipline but surely not everything requires negotiation/discussion? Sometimes it's simply a firm "No" (hidden message being: because I am your parent and what I say goes) is sufficient.

[James Deuce]

I hear what you're saying about making the effort and taking time with your kids when it comes to discipline but surely not everything requires negotiation/discussion? Sometimes it's simply a firm "No" (hidden message being: because I am your parent and what I say goes) is sufficient.

Yeah, but not in public; someone will ring CYF.

[Ms Piggy]

Yeah, but not in public; someone will ring CYF.

Would they really? Cripes!

[The Stranger:Me]

I'm curious as to why people so visciously oppose the anti - smacking stuff? Do you think your kids will grow up "wrong" because you didn't smack them?

How many kids are you raising wbks?

It's far less cruel and more effective and more efficient.
My kids were given a choice from an early age and opted for a smack over time out. Time out was viewed as a form of rejection, smacking was punishment.
That said, it was not a very frequent occurance. Speaking to them on the referendum a few days ago, they couldn't remember having been smacked and I can't remember a specific instance. However, the threat of a punishment is so much more powerful than the punishment itself and they knew it was always a possibility, even without a parent making or intimating a threat, thus because it was an option it didn't need to be used.
Interestingly the 3 of them that are old enough to vote say they will vote in favour of smacking - and that's from people who have just been through it not that long ago.

[Pixie]

so how many kids has nigel latta raised and how did they turn out?
Surely this is the proof of the pie.

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[Pixie]

Found out later his mother took the positive parenting night class at the local school. He found out what positive parenting was when I got hold of him alright.

Meh, positive parenting.

Parenting has to be balanced - if you don't attach both electrodes there's no effect

[Winston001]

I hear what you're saying about making the effort and taking time with your kids when it comes to discipline but surely not everything requires negotiation/discussion? Sometimes it's simply a firm "No" (hidden message being: because I am your parent and what I say goes) is sufficient.

Agreed. When you are tired, coping with cooking/laundry/phone plus young children, calm explanations go out the window.

[Winston001]

....While the expression that people like to bandy around here "Respect is earned, not a right" .....

Yeah and I find that attitude very odd. My approach is the exact opposite. Every person is worthy of respect until they do something to lose it. You don't earn respect - you are due it by being a member of the community.

The busdriver, the shop assistant, the cleaner, all of these people are worthy and entitled to be treated with respect. Life becomes much kinder with this point of view.

[Ms Piggy]

I'm curious as to why people so visciously oppose the anti - smacking stuff? Do you think your kids will grow up "wrong" because you didn't smack them?

And I'll choose to say nothing cos even though I do hold a strong opinion this thread is about other stuff.

But I just have to say that the referendum question is not worded well at all Ooooppps! Did that sneak out! As you were!

I popped my vote in the post just 30 minutes ago.

[James Deuce]

I popped my vote in the post just 30 minutes ago.

Seriously, what's the point? I'm a fine one for insisting that people vote but the question is a false dichotomy.

What precisely are you voting for and what kind of sane reason could you give for ticking either yes or no to that question?