Bus lane red lights.

[Swoop]

No. The regulations made by the NZTA (formerly LTSA) under powers granted them by the Land Transport Act 1998 are the last word. Local road controlling authorities may only, by resolution, act within those regulations.

If only the police would understand this with the thumbhole stock issue...

[Swoop]

The what now?

Slightly different topic... Cops making up their own rules instead of following the parliamentary Act regulations.

[Max Preload]

Slightly different topic... Cops making up their own rules instead of following the parliamentary Act regulations.

I Googled it then deleted the post but you were too quick!

[p.dath]

No. The regulations made by the NZTA (formerly LTSA) under powers granted them by the Land Transport Act 1998 are the last word. Local road controlling authorities may only, by resolution, act within those regulations.

Here is the the latest Auckland City Council - Bylaw No. 25 - Traffic (2006) as at 23 April 2009.

I think you have pretty much addressed the question then. It's pretty black and white.

[Jantar]

No. The regulations made by the NZTA (formerly LTSA) under powers granted them by the Land Transport Act 1998 are the last word. Local road controlling authorities may only, by resolution, act within those regulations.
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Actually legislation passed by parliament is the last word. Regulations made by NZTA are next in line, providing those regulations are made in accordance with and do not conflict with any other legislation. Next down in order of priority is council bylaws and they must act within any regulations and within any legislation.

[Max Preload]

Actually legislation passed by parliament is the last word. Regulations made by NZTA are next in line, providing those regulations are made in accordance with and do not conflict with any other legislation. Next down in order of priority is council bylaws and they must act within any regulations and within any legislation.

The Land Transport Act refers to the Road User Rule for it's definition of a special vehicle lane and the provisions of special vehicle lanes are made solely under the Road User Rule. So I guess you could say the Act has pretty much no word on this matter.

[Big Dave]

What a can of worms!

[The Stranger:Me]

What a can of worms!

Simpler to just check no cops are around before you gap it I say.

[Jantar]

The Land Transport Act refers to the Road User Rule for it's definition of a special vehicle lane and the provisions of special vehicle lanes are made solely under the Road User Rule. So I guess you could say the Act has pretty much no word on this matter.

From Land Transport (Road User) Amendment Rule 2005 (SR 2005/239)

5 Interpretation(1) Clause 1.6 of the principal rule is amended by revoking paragraph (b) of the definition of bus lane, and substituting the following paragraph:

“(b) cycles, mopeds, and motorcycles (unless one or more are specifically excluded by the sign)”.

(2) Clause 1.6 of the principal rule is amended by adding to the definition of transit lane, the following paragraph:

“(e) mopeds”.


This provision for Bus Lanes is seperate from special vehicle lanes. Note also that this road user rule is passed by parliament, not by NZTA or LTSA.

[Big Dave]

Simpler to just check no cops are around before you gap it I say.

As it happens I was Denver + out of.

[Grahameeboy]

Yes, if there are no cops around as I understand it is ONLY for busses.

Think you will find that motorbikes and pedal bikes..who can use bus lanes in town are legal allowed to go on "B"

http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/auck...anes.asp#lanes

[Max Preload]

Think you will find that motorbikes and pedal bikes..who can use bus lanes in town are legal allowed to go on "B"

http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/auck...anes.asp#lanes

Nothing exists in legislation to say that. The ACC website is no more a defence than the Road Code i.e. none.

From Land Transport (Road User) Amendment Rule 2005 (SR 2005/239)

5 Interpretation(1) Clause 1.6 of the principal rule is amended by revoking paragraph (b) of the definition of bus lane, and substituting the following paragraph:

“(b) cycles, mopeds, and motorcycles (unless one or more are specifically excluded by the sign)”.

(2) Clause 1.6 of the principal rule is amended by adding to the definition of transit lane, the following paragraph:

“(e) mopeds”.


This provision for Bus Lanes is seperate from special vehicle lanes.

Actually...

Land Transport (Road User) Rule 2004 (SR 2004/427) (as at 01 October 2008)
Special Vehicle Lane means a lane defined by signs or markings as restricted to a specified class or classes of vehicle; and includes a bus lane, a transit lane, a cycle lane, and a light rail vehicle lane

We're talking about proceeding on signals, not the use of the lanes themselves which is quite clear here.

Note also that this road user rule is passed by parliament, not by NZTA or LTSA.

No. The rule is approved by the Minister for Transport, not Parliament, after the various drafts from the NZTA.

[humphrt]

Jesus H Christ......... too many stupid commities making too many contradicting policies f**king up everyone.

Life is fun eh

[jafar]

Jesus H Christ......... too many stupid commities making too many contradicting policies f**king up everyone.

Life is fun eh

The never ending saga of traffic control. Someone should volunteer to be a guinea pig in a court case & get this mess cleaned up.

[StoneY]

Entertaining tale lads and ladies - last Friday- delayed getting to tag (orama)because of- a zealous cop and the Petone Foreshore BUS LANE!

Policeman waves me down at Te Puni st - asks me why I am riding through the 'Marked lane for busses only'

Me -'how well do you know your road code legislation?'
Cop -'I have a degree in Law mate'
Me -' so your aware motorcyclists get free navigation of all marked bus and taxi lanes?'
Cop - 'Nice try mate- ive heard a few but that almost sounded legit'
Me -' Its a fact officer- my Biker group have a huge post topic on it in our forums- the actual legislation, word for word, is posted in one of the threads and I am not spinning here mate- give me a ticket if you want- you'll look like the most ill informed law degree holder on the planet" (seriously thats what i told him)

He just called me on my Cellphone- VICTORY!
' Mr Hutchison, about the bus lanes- you were correct, you are allowed to navigate the bus lane, it is in LTSA legislation'

All the riders I see in the Q waiting in line with the cages, FFS take the bus LOL

Thank you KB- VINDICATED