NZ Police - why do they do it?

[saltydog]

So how fast DO you think you should be allowed to go before getting a ticket???

Speed cameras are set to go off if a vehicle exceeds the prescribed limit by 11 km/h.
So then he'd still be snapped as was doing 84. (discretion dicitates 81)

[SMOKEU]

Just bad luck really, once I was bouncing off the speed limiter in front of a traffic cop and he didn't even pull me over, yet another time I wasn't doing anything wrong and on come the red and blues.

[MSTRS:Me]

There's no such thing as discretionary when you have quotas to fill, and a fall in revenue. When your boss's KPI's are measured by those, you tend to please your boss before pleasing the public - after all he pays you, he promotes you.

I learnt years ago about the 'attitude' test - I know how to play the game, it doesn't work when the officer has been told he hasn't meet his targets this month.

And your point is...?
Nowhere in the word 'discretionary' does it suggest you will get off. But as long as the term is used, it gives (false) hope to the public.

[smoky]

So how fast DO you think you should be allowed to go before getting a ticket???

Thats not my point;
Ask yourself scumdaog, would you pull someone for 84klm/hr 200 meters for the open road sign?

But actually on some of our roads I do think we could look at 120 klm/hr speed limit, especially duel carriageways , motorways and so on - but thats a different subject

[scumdog]

Thats not my point;
Ask yourself scumdaog, would you pull someone for 84klm/hr 200 meters for the open road sign?

But actually on some of our roads I do think we could look at 120 klm/hr speed limit, especially duel carriageways , motorways and so on - but thats a different subject

OK, me? - maybe not 200 metres before the sign (even though technically it's still) but were you actually that close?

And our 'official' discretion is for vehicles heading into a lower speed zone - not leaving it FYI.

[smoky]

And your point is...?
Nowhere in the word 'discretionary' does it suggest you will get off. But as long as the term is used, it gives (false) hope to the public.

you raised the point you goose

Oh..and on the subject of 200m after a slower speed sign...DISCRETIONARY is the keyword.

[Virago]

Nah - It's not the fact I got caught for speeding that irks me, it's the attitude of enforcing the strict letter of the law for no apparent logical outcome...

So doing 84k in a 70k area is quite acceptable then? No safety issues involved?

You're surely not gonna try and defend this? It's practically entrapment for the purpose of revenue gathering only - nothing too do with road safety

Yep, the cop forced him to do it...

[short-circuit]

Yep, the cop forced him to do it...

Just like sitting at the end of passing lanes etc. You wanna argue semantics or talk common sense?

[smoky]

but were you actually that close?

Yea I was - south bound out of Huntly, come around a slight left hander past the quarry, just opposite the layby lane where the last lot of houses are, and you can see the open road sign, and the road opens up into double lanes.

Then there's the Police car, lights on, after working out he was after me, I pull in about 500 meters on the open road side of the sign

[smoky]

So doing 84k in a 70k area is quite acceptable then? No safety issues involved?..

Again that's not the point - you should be a cop, you have the same dick head jobsworth mentality as he had.
Can't you think a bit more logically than that?
Think about how your reputation is damaged in the eyes of the public when you become anally attentive to the letter of the law rather than the sensible reasonable enforcement of it.
How the public are loosing respect for the uniform, when you throw you weight around like Nazi's

[James Deuce]

It's entirely the point and I'm struggling to get yours. You got pinged for breaking a well understood and documented law and now you're having a cry?

[mowgli]

Yea I was - south bound out of Huntly, come around a slight left hander past the quarry, just opposite the layby lane where the last lot of houses are, and you can see the open road sign, and the road opens up into double lanes.

Perhaps he assumed you were doing that speed all the way along the 70 zone. Police radar isn't accurate around corners so he may not have witnessed you speed up. Was he parked (fishing) or moving (dumb luck)?

[Virago]

...come around a slight left hander past the quarry, just opposite the layby lane where the last lot of houses are...

There's your answer. You might have trouble explaining to John and Jane Smith, who live in one of those houses with their two little kiddies, why you think it's safe to speed past their house. Or are they just dickheads too?

[MSTRS:Me]

Again that's not the point - you should be a cop, you have the same dick head jobsworth mentality as he had.
Can't you think a bit more logically than that?
Think about how your reputation is damaged in the eyes of the public when you become anally attentive to the letter of the law rather than the sensible reasonable enforcement of it.
How the public are loosing respect for the uniform, when you throw you weight around like Nazi's

Does your cause no favours by insulting folks on here.
Perhaps the cop was being a nazi about it - don't know, wasn't there. That is his job after all. He is tasked with catching transgressors of the road rules. He 'may' choose to apply some discretion. Or not. Just as you may choose to obey the letter of the law. Or not.

[enigma51]

Im with mr fruit the road is not a race track. SLOW THE FUCK DOWN.