NZ Police - why do they do it?

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Well, from a random 'merkin law site (since I couldn't find a relevant kiwi legal definition) we read:



So, how exactly did this malicious revenue gatherer our poor victim into speeding?

He did the speed.

He got a ticket.

Cry me a river, a lesson has (once again) been learned!

Forgive me if I missed something in road usage 101 but the speed limit signs are from when you have passed them NOT when you are approaching them!

Clearly the lagers I have consumed this afternoon are clouding my thought processes, I better go for a ride, as clearly there was a police officer pouring the amber goodness down my neck...

See: http://www.lectlaw.com/def/e024.htm for further reading from said 'merkin web site.

For the lagered and slightly less enlightened amongst us - the phraseology I used in my earlier post "practically entrapment" was not meant to be taken in a literal sense.

Get. Over. It.


Sitting on the skirts of a change of speed zone waiting to nab some bastard transitioning to an open road speed is as cynical as sitting just before a very short very badly designed passing lane runs out. It’s about quota nothing more nothing less.

Even worse than the kiwi tradition of “well it wasn’t me so who gives a fuck” are pricks who just can’t help but rub it in.

[Drew]

I cannot believe I'm saying this, but the speed limit signs are positioned where they are, because that is where you are allowed to do those speeds.

"I was nearly at the open road sign", is as piss weak an excuse as, "I nearly stopped at the intersection where I ran that kid over".

I've sped, and accepted the consequences of it. I have also received tickets I think were un-warranted, but thems the breaks.

Bottom line, harden the fuck up, because you fucked up.

Drew

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Any chance there could be a special 'Cop Bashing' section or sticky?

See Virago's no discretion/no sympathy comment

[Madness]

Roll on summer is all I can say.

[smoky]

It's entirely the point and I'm struggling to get yours. You got pinged for breaking a well understood and documented law and now you're having a cry?

Not having a cry (I take it you actually read my post)

I just think that the general public expect policing of our laws to be carried out in a fair minded manner. Cops of the past use to be reasonable, what happened? Does what happened to me reflect the kind of police enforcment we want?
Personally I think there are a lot better things for cops to be doing than pulling over motorists doing 84 in a 70 zone 200 meters away from the open road

[smoky]

There's your answer. You might have trouble explaining to John and Jane Smith, who live in one of those houses with their two little kiddies, why you think it's safe to speed past their house. Or are they just dickheads too?

Actually I said the houses were down a layby .......I only mentioned them as a point of reference
They are not on the main road
I was not 'speeding' past any houses

[smoky]

Does your cause no favours by insulting folks on here.

It's KB - comes with the territory

.... He is tasked with catching transgressors of the road rules. He 'may' choose to apply some discretion. Or not. Just as you may choose to obey the letter of the law. Or not.

Again - there is only one logical reason to be pinging people like this; quota

Unless he's just a wanker who gets off on throwing his wait around

You just need to ask your self - if I were a cop; would I have done that?

[smoky]

It's possible the policeman may have used his discretion had your warrant been current, also how accurat is your speedo.? If you were clocked at 84 then probably your speedo may have been indicating 90ish not 80ish. Just food for thought.
Rick.

Yep - maybe he wouldn't have fined me for the speed if my WOF was current
when I checked my speedo it was about 80 as in 81 or 82 - he said 84, not too far out

But my original point is; why police the speed limit 200 meters from the open road sign? Unless your just trying to get your quota ???

[Robbo]

Any chance there could be a special 'Cop Bashing' section or sticky?

It would make it easier for me to find my entertainment

Here's one for you SD
Cheers

[crazyhorse]

Guess we gotta pay their wages somehow..... maybe they should put in for a living allowance in WGTN when they got a house there too (YEAH RIGHT!!)

[smoky]

Im sorry but I find it Ironic that a bureaucrat as described in your profile would question an officer of the law, please....just what sought of bureaucracy are you in,

Why would you find that ironic?

[smoky]

Get yourself a top of the line radar detector, use your eyes, and trust your instincts...it`s about all you can do.
Oh, and apart from obeying the speed limit to the last decimal point, like half the law abiding drones around here.

I agree - The word 'hypocrite' come to mind
there are some who have posted on here who ride far quicker than I do, and spout on about slow down, obey the law, bla bla bla

Hypocrites

[Ixion]

The really amusing thing is the ones who have litre bikes, capable of 250kph+ , and spout on about "speed kills". Right, like they spent the money to buy a bike that can double the speed limt and some more, because?

[Biggles08]

If I were a cop I'd sit there and wait too. It's clear that some people think speed limits are only suggestions. Why spend petrol chasing offenders?

Revenue or not, it's the copper's job, and there's no shortage of people willing to help him out. He didn't set the speed limit and doesn't really give a rat's whether you think it should be safe at 84 ks, you're offending, and as a bonus had no warrant.

Ya reaps what ya sows.

You are actually quite correct here.....even if you are for a completely different reason than you thought. Basically you have suggested that some cop’s have an ‘attitude’ that seems to enjoy watching predominantly law abiding citizens squirm in awe at the mighty arm of the law. Some cops enjoy their jobs way too much...just like parking wardens. I say bring back real cops that like generally law abiding people...it should be a prerequisite for joining the force not something that seems to be brainwashed out of them at wellington in training!

[scumdog]

The really amusing thing is the ones who have litre bikes, capable of 250kph+ , and spout on about "speed kills". Right, like they spent the money to buy a bike that can double the speed limt and some more, because?

Same reason I bought an M16, cos I wanted one

Ain't littered with dead people around here - yet.....