NZ Police - why do they do it?

[Elysium]

The fact Katman has no made no comments in this thread so far adds credibility that Smoky and Co are just plain wrong in their attempts to justify breaking the law, I mean come on, 14kph over the limit, in a residental area, warrant out by two weeks...

If you got pinged for say 5kph over the limit then yes I can see an issue here but in anycase I think us bikers are getting it easy from the police compared to cagers as I can't recall how many times I went past a police car on the open road doing 110-120kph and nothing happens. I guess maybe its easy to pull over a boy racer then go through the hassel of pulling a bike over? But I was still breaking the law anycase.

But if I did get pinged then its my own bloody fault and whinging about it wont make the ticket go away, just learn a lesson.

[Okey Dokey]

As others have said, it does sound justified. Pay the fine, and maybe learn the lesson about speeding in a residential zone. Why should it be okay to go nearly 15km faster than the posted limit?

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Just thought I'd point out here that not all cops are pricks like this.

I have 2 uncles in Napier who are cops and they both don't like the whole traffic officer thing. One heads the hawkes bay armed defenders squad and the other has been a cop for a numbr of years. Second said uncle only gave out TWO tickets in his whole compulsory period of being a traffic cop (which is something like 9 monthsm don't quote me on this) and that was ONLY cos they were being smart bastards.

I think you'll find that a lot of cops would disagree with a lot of what goes on i traffic offence ticketing but there's fuck all they can do about it.

Well you've just fucked your second point up with your previous statement about your own uncle's resistance. Discretion can and in many instances should be exercised.

[scumdog]

Well you've just fucked your second point up with your previous statement about your own uncle's resistance. Discretion can and in many instances should be exercised.

And ALWAYS should be used when it's (insert any particular KBers name here) gets pulled over .

[smoky]

Every couple of pages you have to keep making the same point - because I presume people cant be bothered reading thru the thread.

Again - I am not saying I wasn't breaking the law, am not crying about it
I am not trying to get off the speeding ticket, I am going to pay it.
I am not even talking about no WOF - fair enough
I was not in a residential zone

And the issue is not just about 14 ks over the speed limit - it's about being 14k's over the limit 200 meters from the open road sign
I know the law is the law, and I was breaking it

So I don't know why you all keep pointing it out - how about thinking honestly about the following;

It's asking the questions; is police enforcement of minor infringements that are of very little consequence - of any value to reducing the road toll, of any benefit to the community they serve, is it an acceptable use of Police resources
The only value in this kind of enforcement is revenue gathering or a cop who needs to fill his quota

Should red-heads ever be allowed to become police?

[scumdog]

And the issue is not just about 14 ks over the speed limit - it's about being 14k's over the limit 200 meters from the open road sign
I know the law is the law, and I was breaking it

So prior to this alleged '200 meters from the open road' you were not actually speeding - at all?

[Okey Dokey]

Reducing the road toll? I'm not sure.

Exceeding the speed limit? Who cares if there was only 200m to the open road? It was still wrong.

Residential area or not? Usually a 70km area in an open road spot is because there are buildings etc around.

Red heads? Love em!

If you ask for opinions on kb, you will get them. Some will sympathise with your point of view, other will not.

[smoky]

And ALWAYS should be used when it's (insert any particular KBers name here) gets pulled over .

You agreed you wouldn't have pulled me up for 84ks just 200 meters from the open road sign, have you changed your mind?

I agree that there are a lot of bikers who seem to think the law shouldn't apply to them - and I realise that by posting what I have here, I am now 'tarred with the same brush'.
But thats just the impression some people want to jump to - and can't see past the evil person I am to have a discussion about the real point I'm making

how about thinking honestly about the following;

It's asking the questions; is police enforcement of minor infringements that are of very little consequence - of any value to reducing the road toll, of any benefit to the community they serve, is it an acceptable use of Police resources
The only value in this kind of enforcement is revenue gathering or a cop who needs to fill his quota

[scumdog]

You agreed you wouldn't have pulled me up for 84ks just 200 meters from the open road sign, have you changed your mind?

I agree that there are a lot of bikers who seem to think the law shouldn't apply to them - and I realise that by posting what I have here, I am now 'tarred with the same brush'.
But thats just the impression some people want to jump to - and can't see past the evil person I am to have a discussion about the real point I'm making

No, just making the point that 'Everyone' feels their particular event justifies discretion.

And too many still have a school-days mentality/expectation regarding whatever problem they bump into - "s'not fair, ya can't do that"

Real life ain't freakin' 'fair'.


(And yes, I too have felt the 'unfairness' of law way back in my past)

[smoky]

So prior to this alleged '200 meters from the open road' you were not actually speeding - at all?

about 70 - 75 thru the 70 area, pretty much a waste of time going any quicker thru there, especially that time of day
I do Hamilton to Auckland and back several time a week, and I'm happy just flowing with the traffic thru congested areas, I'm not in any hurry

Actually doing about 1400ks a week for work on our state 1, and then riding on weekends adding ks to that total - I have accumulated 9 tickets in 20 years, it's not too bad, and they've all been minor

[Pussy]

Yeah.... Police bastards!
Who do they think they are, enforcing the law?....

[smoky]

Yeah.... Police bastards!
Who do they think they are, enforcing the law?....

Another one who can't be bothered reading
Or is such a shallow thinker they can't get past stating the obvious and think they are brilliant

Well - I'm off to church to see if god will forgive me, such an evil person I am

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Another one who can't be bothered reading
Or is such a shallow thinker they can't get past stating the obvious and think they are brilliant

My guess is both

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(And yes, I too have felt the 'unfairness' of law way back in my past)

Any more recent indiscretions that your mates mighta let slide?

[Biggles08]

about 70 - 75 thru the 70 area, pretty much a waste of time going any quicker thru there, especially that time of day
I do Hamilton to Auckland and back several time a week, and I'm happy just flowing with the traffic thru congested areas, I'm not in any hurry

Actually doing about 1400ks a week for work on our state 1, and then riding on weekends adding ks to that total - I have accumulated 9 tickets in 20 years, it's not too bad, and they've all been minor

Your prepared to speed...your prepared to kill! 75kph is scary fast! Esspecially through the piece of road you were doing it....a clay brick could have rolled down the hill from the brick manufacturing place, landed in the middle of the road, you could have swerved to avoid it, run off the road over a bit of dirt shaped like a ramp, done a triple back flip and landed on a 5 month old baby that was out walking the family dog....how could you look yourself in the mirror after that!? Imagine having to face that 5 month old's parents and saying sorry! Fucker! SLOW DOWN!!!! SPEED KILLS!!!