Rimutaka Hill - fully double-yellow lined! %$#@n Pricks!

**grbaker** · 21st August 2009, 16:35

Double yellow on the hill

A 80kph limit on the Paekakariki Hill road and refusing to repair it properly.

Double yellow on the Coastal Highway

with cheese-cutter in the middle

and a 80kph limit.

We are paying for this shit.

**merv** · 21st August 2009, 16:41

We are paying to be controlled

**grantnz** · 21st August 2009, 17:19

Interesting this one. Half the population believe you can overtake as long as you don't cross the yellow line and the others say NO OVERTAKING AT ALL even if the vehicle moves over to let you go by. Would love to know the law as have spoken to several people on this and 2 claim to had tickets for overtaking, but not crossing the lines. I was stopped myself for the same thing in a group of bikes in Paraparamu last year as a result of a fine upstanding member of society's ( *555) interpretation of this law. The cop was only 17 or 18 years old and was no match for the group of 6 bike riders he had stopped when it came to arguing our point or identifying the purpetrator of this hideous crime. Must be biking Lawer or Copper that can comment?

**NZsarge** · 21st August 2009, 17:35

Originally Posted by Trudes

Anyway, it's naughty.

I thought you were all about the naughty....

**riffer** · 21st August 2009, 17:37

Originally Posted by grantnz

Interesting this one. Half the population believe you can overtake as long as you don't cross the yellow line and the others say NO OVERTAKING AT ALL even if the vehicle moves over to let you go by. Would love to know the law as have spoken to several people on this and 2 claim to had tickets for overtaking, but not crossing the lines. I was stopped myself for the same thing in a group of bikes in Paraparamu last year as a result of a fine upstanding member of society's ( *555) interpretation of this law. The cop was only 17 or 18 years old and was no match for the group of 6 bike riders he had stopped when it came to arguing our point or identifying the purpetrator of this hideous crime. Must be biking Lawer or Copper that can comment?

Been done for it. Unsafe use of lane/unsafe lane changing.

$150. 15 demerits.

**Nasty** · 21st August 2009, 17:48

Good ride over the hill today ... they are still doing the lines so had a little wait on the way down .. but lunch at Toppies was worth the wait! From what I can tell there is gonna be bugger all change - as where the lines seem to be you can't really pass legally as there is bugger all visiability ... and you apparently need so many 100 meters before you are meant to pass

**mossy1200** · 21st August 2009, 17:59

Originally Posted by Nasty

Good ride over the hill today ... they are still doing the lines so had a little wait on the way down .. but lunch at Toppies was worth the wait! From what I can tell there is gonna be bugger all change - as where the lines seem to be you can't really pass legally as there is bugger all visiability ... and you apparently need so many 100 meters before you are meant to pass

100meteres clear visability.Does this mean you can see 100metres or thats there isnt to be any oncoming trafic in the 100metres.
The visibility was clear officer .I could see the car very well thanks.

**MSTRS:Me** · 21st August 2009, 18:05

Originally Posted by mossy1200

The standard responce is I thought he was waving me past.Honest mistake.

Is the area between the two yellow lines a motorcycle lane or what?

Originally Posted by Shadows

As long as you don't cross the second one then nobody can truthfully state that you actually crossed double yellow lines, can they?

I've used it as an extra lane in the past. The cat's eyes are a bitch though.

Originally Posted by grantnz

Interesting this one. Half the population believe you can overtake as long as you don't cross the yellow line and the others say NO OVERTAKING AT ALL even if the vehicle moves over to let you go by. Would love to know the law as have spoken to several people on this and 2 claim to had tickets for overtaking, but not crossing the lines. I was stopped myself for the same thing in a group of bikes in Paraparamu last year as a result of a fine upstanding member of society's ( *555) interpretation of this law. The cop was only 17 or 18 years old and was no match for the group of 6 bike riders he had stopped when it came to arguing our point or identifying the purpetrator of this hideous crime. Must be biking Lawer or Copper that can comment?

Originally Posted by riffer

Been done for it. Unsafe use of lane/unsafe lane changing.

$150. 15 demerits.

There is no grey area here.
If the yellow is on your side of the dotted white, you may not (legally) cross to the right of it. Double yellows simply means the opposing traffic has the same constraint.
Double yellows carry no more weight than a single, in terms of overtaking.
If you can safely carry out an overtaking movement between the vehicle in front and the yellow, then unless you do something really stupid, you should be fine. Bearing in mind that the cager may see your manouevre differently...as might a snake (eh Riffer?)

**Shadows** · 21st August 2009, 18:40

Originally Posted by MSTRS

There is no grey area here.
If the yellow is on your side of the dotted white, you may not (legally) cross to the right of it. Double yellows simply means the opposing traffic has the same constraint.
Double yellows carry no more weight than a single, in terms of overtaking.
If you can safely carry out an overtaking movement between the vehicle in front and the yellow, then unless you do something really stupid, you should be fine. Bearing in mind that the cager may see your manouevre differently...as might a snake (eh Riffer?)

Yeah you're probably right. Can't let the truth get in the way of a good story though.

**oldrider** · 21st August 2009, 21:16

Originally Posted by merv

We are paying to be controlled

Now you are doing it to me Merv! Great minds think alike!

Can you spot the difference between Clark and Key?

Key is better looking but the outcomes for us are almost identicle!

**KrazyGixxerBoy** · 21st August 2009, 21:50

Seems a bit rough when you consider how many head ons that happen on that road (I've heard of none!). Oh well, like they say...just don't cross the line when you pass!...either that or you can do what my mate did....hinge your licence plate so you can push a button and make it flick up when you want to cross the lane!

**mossy1200** · 21st August 2009, 21:58

Originally Posted by KrazyGixxerBoy

Seems a bit rough when you consider how many head ons that happen on that road (I've heard of none!). Oh well, like they say...just don't cross the line when you pass!...either that or you can do what my mate did....hinge your licence plate so you can push a button and make it flick up when you want to cross the lane!

hinges and choke cable attatched to the top of plate with hinges a little lower down.Pull choke and it flips up and release choke and gravity returns it.

**JayRacer37** · 21st August 2009, 22:02

Come on guys, doesn't this just mean that you know for sure you won't be stopping should you see blue n reds?

**Smokin Joe** · 21st August 2009, 22:07

Yellow lines cost way less money than building passing lanes. The problem with the roads in this country is the bloody lack of passing lanes.

More passing lanes and who would give a stuff is some old coot wanted to travel at 70ks instead of 100ks. Its the bloody frustration that we as riders/drivers feel that is causing many of these head on accidents.

I recently rode from Rotorua to Wellington and back and twice found myself inadvertantly passing on double yellows, because I was so busy watching traffic, passing opportunities etc and the place that I did pass was such a safe and obvious place to pass. I was just amazed to find some twat had painted no passing lines there.

Seems the double passing lines everywhere is a relatively new policy that is being implemented country wide.

Smokin Joe.