The firearm thread

**Mr Merde** · 20th August 2009, 15:01

Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones

Seems a bit silly

-Indy

This is our esteemed police FORCE. Dont call them silly, they might be offended and get you next time you are carrying a chair leg or a golf club or similar.

**Wolf** · 20th August 2009, 15:44

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10591895

According to all the reports this man has knives and a meat cleaver.

The police in their wisdom have now decided to charge him with threatening to kill and using a firearm to resist arrest.

What I want to know is where did this firearm suddenly come from or when did the police start classifying knives as firearms.

Is this an attempt to influence the crime statistics and once again put firearms owners on the defensive?

Originally Posted by renegade master

Perhaps, he told the cops on the phone he had a gun

No, silly, they are merely interpreting the definition of "firearm" - "free-standing military-pattern pistol grip" = "can be held with your hand"; "firearm" = "anything that could possibly be used as a weapon".

As the knives can be held in your hand, they'll probably also charge him with illegal possession of an MSSA...

**Indiana_Jones** · 20th August 2009, 15:46

Cheers wolf!

It's all so much clearer now!

-Indy

**Indiana_Jones** · 20th August 2009, 16:20

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Hunt...-237066257.htm

$700 buy now for a ww2 made Mosin-Nagant

'never been fired.'

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

-Indy

**Wolf** · 20th August 2009, 16:30

Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Hunt...-237066257.htm

$700 buy now for a ww2 made Mosin-Nagant

'never been fired.'

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

-Indy

If it were a French WWII rifle I could believe it had never been fired - would be a bit wary of how it withstood being dropped, tho...

**Indiana_Jones** · 20th August 2009, 16:38

Originally Posted by Wolf

If it were a French WWII rifle I could believe it had never been fired - would be a bit wary of how it withstood being dropped, tho...

-Indy

**Indiana_Jones** · 20th August 2009, 16:55

God I love these rifles

-Indy

**sAsLEX** · 20th August 2009, 17:14

Originally Posted by Wolf

If it were a French WWII rifle I could believe it had never been fired - would be a bit wary of how it withstood being dropped, tho...

The vast majority of WWII/WWI soldiers were drafted and their percentage of effective shot at the enemy, if they fired at all, were very low.

Compared to the current US Marines who will fire 100%. No morals. No thought. Just reaction!

**Indiana_Jones** · 20th August 2009, 17:40

The Duke was awesone in the film

-Indy

**ManDownUnder** · 20th August 2009, 17:46

Originally Posted by Wolf

No, silly, they are merely interpreting the definition of "firearm" - "free-standing military-pattern pistol grip" = "can be held with your hand"; "firearm" = "anything that could possibly be used as a weapon".

As the knives can be held in your hand, they'll probably also charge him with illegal possession of an MSSA...

The guy was having a whizz till they grabbed him. Someone in the canteen overhead he was taking a "piss till gripped"... and the rest is history! They can't lock him up till the find a cell with 6mm plate steel walls, and 8mm plate steel door.

**scumdog** · 20th August 2009, 18:09

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10591895

According to all the reports this man has knives and a meat cleaver.

The police in their wisdom have now decided to charge him with threatening to kill and using a firearm to resist arrest.

What I want to know is where did this firearm suddenly come from or when did the police start classifying knives as firearms.

Is this an attempt to influence the crime statistics and once again put firearms owners on the defensive?

So you KNOW that's all he had??

OK, I bit.....

**wbks** · 21st August 2009, 20:22

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

Compared to the current US Marines who will fire 100%. No morals. No thought. Just reaction!

You really think the majority of soldiers are much different?

**sAsLEX** · 21st August 2009, 21:14

Originally Posted by wbks

You really think the majority of soldiers are much different?

Depends on the era they come from, how they are trained et al. It is a rather complex equation really.

But the Americans(and other forces as well) have spent a lot of time and money researching how to remove moral conscience as a stop to the squeezing of that index finger.

**Mr Merde** · 21st August 2009, 22:52

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

Depends on the era they come from, how they are trained et al. It is a rather complex equation really.

But the Americans(and other forces as well) have spent a lot of time and money researching how to remove moral conscience as a stop to the squeezing of that index finger.

Doesnt need a moral conscience to be removed, just a belief that what you are doing will make a difference some way.