86km in a 100km zone = speeding ticket?

[FROSTY:Me]

There is a good reason for people to question laws, and this particular law may not be such a good one.

Suggest a BETTER law then dude.
A law that ensures that the lowest common denominator stays alive on the road.
15 years old lived in a city appartment.mum n dad only caught busses so no concept of rideing or road rules.
Its ok for that person to be allowed on the motorway or open highway at 100km/h ?
If ya think I'm beeing a nasty out of touch old prick then Im sorry if Im doing a katman onya.
As I posted earlier a learner licence is a licence to learn road riding skills.
The damage you do by "just" being allowed to go 30km/h faster isn't simpy adding a bit more damage if you crash it multiplys as you speed up
6 months is concidered to be a reasonable time to gather the skills needed to graduate to being restricted to "only" riding a 250

[MarkH]

but he said you are only allowed to do 110km when you are passing

This is not true at all - you are only allowed to do 100kph when passing on the open road, any more than that is illegal. Generally the police allow a 10kph tolerance and ignore the illegal speed up to the speed limit + 10, but that doesn't mean that 101kph while passing isn't illegal.

Of course sensible speed to pass may be different to legal speed, but the cops don't enforce sensible.

[red675]

why are you looking to appeal? you broke the law?!

some laws is made to be broke and some ain't

[CookMySock]

Just pay it, miss, and learn to hate the police.

Steve

[boomer]

some laws is made to be broke and some ain't

i agree.. i want to make my own cocaine..!

[Supermac Jr]

quick question, has anybody been successful in an appeal?

no

[Cheshire Cat]

Get your bloody restricted already!!!

[SPman]

The point of the law, I think, is that you just shouldn't go in a place that requires 100 km/h. You are expected to get more experience (and the next stage of the license) before going into that 100 km/h zone.

It's not (meant to be) about dangerously forcing you to be in a 100 km/h zone and holding up traffic by doing 70 km/h.

To be blunt: Tough luck.

And how the fuck do you get from the Shore to the City without using the motorway, unless you use the backroads around the top of the harbour and add an hour to the journey!

It's a fucking stupid law, (not) thought through by (perhaps) well intentioned lawmakers who don't really have a clue!

Write in and appeal, even though you probably won't get off, if only to have another protest on file!

[sleemanj]

Suggest a BETTER law then dude.

If the intent of the law is, as some people here suggest, limit you to low speed roads. Then make the law you can only travel on low speed roads.

Saying you can travel on any road you like (including high speed roads) as long as you're doing it low speed, invites trouble.

And if that's not the intent of the law, then ditch the law because it just doesn't make sense.

[marty]

there's on and off ramps in the 80k zone both north and southbound

it's the price you pay for being on a learners.

[pzkpfw]

And how the fuck do you get from the Shore to the City without using the motorway, ...

I've checked a map of Auckland.

I think if you use the backroads around the top of the harbour you'd be fine. You'd even get an extra hours riding experience out of it.

Or, you could take a bus, and get the experience a different way (weekends, maybe).

[FROSTY:Me]

If the intent of the law is, as some people here suggest, limit you to low speed roads. Then make the law you can only travel on low speed roads.

Saying you can travel on any road you like (including high speed roads) as long as you're doing it low speed, invites trouble.

And if that's not the intent of the law, then ditch the law because it just doesn't make sense.

Ohh gosh yea isn't it such a stupid law. it actually requires a learner rider to USE THEIR BRAINS.
Hmm lemme think for a mo.
I'll change vehicle type for a mo to see if I can get the right impact.
Do you think a pilot with ZERO-30 hours flying skills should be flying into LAX or Heathrow airport?? I'll stand corrected but I believe both are "legally" able to be done on a restricted PPL
Or the same pilot doing carrier landings ?
NO??
Why ever not??
Ohh hang on could it be they don't have the skill level to deal with the hazards of doing so?
Bike riding is the only motor sport/transport where the person gets a bit of paper and id\s flying solo from there.
The 70km/h law might just keep a few of the LEARNER riders alive for awhile

[EnzoYug]

And how the fuck do you get from the Shore to the City without using the motorway, unless you use the backroads around the top of the harbour and add an hour to the journey!

You move house. Auckland isn't the beginning and end of the country.
I got off this law, but if you can't get off just take it on the chin.

If you play the game, you accept the rules.

[enigma51]

The road is not a racetrack slow the fuck down!

[sleemanj]

I'll change vehicle type for a mo to see if I can get the right impact. Do you think a pilot with ZERO-30 hours flying skills should be flying into LAX or Heathrow airport?? I'll stand corrected but I believe both are

Bad example.

Firstly, there is no such thing as a "Restricted" PPL. You can find the specifications for Pilot's licences in rule Part 61. Perhaps you are thinking of a Recreational Pilot's Licence, however in order attain this, you basically need to have had a PPL in the past and downgrade when your medical situation isn't looking 100% as the medical requirements are lesser.

Until somebody has a PPL they can't do much without specific permission from an instructor, good luck getting permission for a low hour student pilot from an instructor to do anything even remotely out of the student's capability. So, no, a 30 hr pilot can't just decide to rock up to LAX unless their instructor has specifically authorised that flight, in NZ for a start you need 50 hours flying time minimum to be eligable to take the PPL flight test.

Even with that said, good luck getting any lightie into Heathrow (without huge amounts of money), LAX may be a little more accommodating.

Finally in either case the professional controllers at both facilities would probably make flying into either airport VFR safer than flying at busy uncontrolled airfields. I would be more apprehensive about flying into Oshkosh during Airventure time than I would LAX.