Warning- for when you up the pace.

[Mom]

almost as much as I hate being a slow rider

Meh, you ride the roads you know really well Tarty, dont call yourself slow. What I read in this thread is that there is a heap of stuff that can go wrong very fast if you do over ride your skills, and that you need to be aware of those things.

Me, I am liquid lightening on the blue lovely when she is going well! Nothing, but nothing beats the thrill I get every time I get out there and ride

[Katman]

So he is not one-dimensional, only one-eyed?

If you say so.

[oldrider]

What i know is if it feels right, i do it.

Don't know about the rest of this thread but that quote does it for me!

[Mekk]

I must be blind..I don't see anything in Beyond's original post that would incite me to go out on a public road thinking I could ride like Rossi...or even one of KB's infamous squids.
But then I also know Mstrs is much more than two dimensional
Katman...please show me exactly what you mean...I hate being ignorant ..almost as much as I hate being a slow rider

It's the suggestion that anybody can handle higher speeds on public roads as long as they're prepared and know what they're doing.

It's a bit like American Idol making people think they can all be singing sensations too.

Why do you hate being a slow rider?

[Bonez]

Don't know about the rest of this thread but that quote does it for me!

You rebel you.

[Winston001]

Is a coconut a fruit? cos they would fricken hurt!!!....

Coconut?? Where'd you get that then? The coconut is a tropical fruit. New Zealand is a temperate country!

Unless......perhaps a sooty shearwater carried it here, that might work......

[Ixion]

Have you ever been to a Fafafini throwning competition??

Ah, that's the word I was looking for. A most disconcerting coconut.

[FJRider]

Don't know about the rest of this thread but that quote does it for me!

It would rank alongside ... it seemed like a good idea at the time.

[yungatart]

That's pretty much how I read it too, Mom!

Both accidents I have had were low speed...entirely my own fault...both times I was "riding my own ride" and was not pushed out of my comfort zone by anyone else, by any post I had read on here, nor was I attempting to show off, gain kudos, impress anyone or push my boundaries.

I happen to get my thrills from increasing my skill level in tiny little increments...but the grin factor is huge.

[Winston001]

meh, terms posses only the meaning they are given, physicists can get all upity if they want, but many people know the outwards force as centrifugal, so i have no problem calling it that.

I have to agree with James - centrifugal is a fictional force. However I also agree with you because I find it much easier to think of outward action than inward tension. And your point about the perspective from the disk is well made.

[Ixion]

He is, and he does. He is not glorifying Rossi behaviour on public roads...he simply understands that one of the reasons (the main one?) that people get into riding is the thrill it can supply, and extrapolates that thrill....If it is great at 95kph, then it is going to be better still at 105kph, etc.
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I disagree. That is correct up to a point, but only up to a point.

Passing over a stretch of road at X kph is fun. Doing so a bit faster is more fun. And faster still, more fun still. But there comes a point of diminishing return, and then reverse benefit. Where going faster is no longer more fun. The ride has turned into a wrestling match, the spidey sense is shrieking full time , survival instincts are bellowing, oncoming traffic is terrifying.

Not fun. And not safe. And very exhasuting if maintained for any time.

Every bit of road has its natural speed (which will vary of course for different riders, different bikes, different conditions). The speed at which one is "pushing it", working ones skills and bike to a harmonious totality. In the zone. Under that speed is actually LESS safe, over it definately less safe.

Of course it has absolutely no relation to any speed limit. And there are roads in ZN where that speed could be over 200kph.

I never speed because I never push beyond the "feels right, feels good, feels challenging but in control " point. Well, I do, becasue you only realise that you've gone beyond by going beyond it, so to speak. But that's when a wise man buttons off and slips back into the zone.

[Katman]

I happen to get my thrills from increasing my skill level in tiny little increments...but the grin factor is huge.

And if everyone took that attitude into their motorcycling experience we would not have anywhere near the degree of problems we are faced with now.

It's when people dangle a mystical and euphoric 'zone' in front of inexperienced and easily swayed motorcyclists that the real danger all too often becomes a tragic reality.

[bogan]

I have to agree with James - centrifugal is a fictional force. However I also agree with you because I find it much easier to think of outward action than inward tension. And your point about the perspective from the disk is well made.

the main point i was trying to make is that we have come up with all these names for things in order to communicate with each other, the fact that the majority of people know a exactly what is meant by centrifugal force makes it non-fictional, you can't use it in an equation which is why physisists dont like it, but everyone else knows what it is so its ok to use it i reckon

[Mom]

Everyones personal zone is a different place from the next person. I find my personal zone (and test my limits from time to time) everytime I go out and about.

[boomer]

i just went crazy.. and rode in the rain; Watching beyond spinning it up.