Crucial or crock?

[Hiflyer]

There's no way I'm having uneven wear on my tyre (who likes a squared off tyre!), so slalom it is...

Joking, I only do it with new unscrubbed tyres but yeah if it floats your boat why not, not hurting anyone.

Yea but it can scare the daylights outta people behind you cos when you start, they think you've had to swerve violently to avoid a small child on the road.

[Kickaha]

I guarantee you it makes A difference. That difference is going to be rather small though and obviously quite immeasurable without scientific tools and methods.

Did you even bother reading the document I put up, their testing method was through enough

The only difference it makes is in your head

[Spyke]

Yea but it can scare the daylights outta people behind you cos when you start, they think you've had to swerve violently to avoid a small child on the road.

God people always jumping to conclusions, bloody invisible kids

[Hiflyer]

God people always jumping to conclusions, bloody invisible kids

IIIIIIII Know!!!

Haha last year when there were those big storms ZM announced weather warnings saying that "Deck chairs and small children could be blown away in the wind"

I've never understood why they only specified those two things haha

[MDR2]

That slow speed slalom thing that some bikers do?
Not on the racetrack, but on any normal road.

makes straight roads fun.

[Gremlin]

Read that test, it made no difference even with aggressive weaving

I'm not even saying a few aggressive weaves will do the job. Sustained movement of the rubber on the tyre will produce heat. Now, if you are moving the rubber more down a straight, than just going at a constant speed in a straight line, then its fair to say the tyre will warm faster.

[Kickaha]

I'm not even saying a few aggressive weaves will do the job. Sustained movement of the rubber on the tyre will produce heat. Now, if you are moving the rubber more down a straight, than just going at a constant speed in a straight line, then its fair to say the tyre will warm faster.

They had him weave the entire 1.8 mile track

Then, we sent Junge to do an entire lap of weaving.

Again, the weaving failed to hold heat anywhere on the tire. Then Junge once again did his straight weaving test, and the tires began cooling rapidly. In fact, during weaving the tires lost heat as rapidly or more rapidly as just
standing still.

But weaving, no matter how aggressive your lean angle and your speed or how long the distance covered, does not build any additional heat in a tire!

[Swoop]

Who the hell would ask such a vital question on KB, without putting up a poll??

[Gremlin]

They had him weave the entire 1.8 mile track

2.88km aye? I think I've sneezed for longer distances than that...

[Maha]

Who the hell would ask such a vital question on KB, without putting up a poll??

I dont do polls........they are like a blunt pencil...
Well I think I have done one poll since joining but that was for a serious collated and factual opinion result.

[crash harry]

I think it's been pretty well accepted for a while now that weaving doesn't significantly warm bike tyres, as was stated earlier, the best way to warm them is accelerating and braking hard - it flexes the rubber a hell of a lot more. But the slalom thing in your lane does help clean the shit off your tyres if you've ridden through something nasty (roadworks, cowpats, herds of small children...). Also, it's kind of fun to do, which is the main reason I do it.

I don't think it's going to do a lot to stop your tyre squaring off. As I understand it, tyres wear mostly when they're doing work - i.e. the rear tends to wear under acceleration, the front under braking and cornering. When you're just cruising down a straight bit of road they're just rolling, which only causes wear if your pressures are really low. So unless you can do the slalom thing while you're accelerating away from the lights and while you're braking (which sounds like a really creative way to bin it) it's not going to help much.

[rwh]

Did you even bother reading the document I put up, their testing method was through enough

Not really, IMHO.

They acknowledged that the sun was making a big difference, but didn't make a big effort to remove that factor (say by running their tests at night).

They didn't compare the 1.8mi hot lap to a 1.8mi hot straight line - going round corners is just weaving in a prescribed manner, after all.

They didn't measure the g-forces generated and compare them between the weaving tests and the hot laps.

All of those would have helped prove something more conclusively, I think.

Richard

[Kickaha]

Not really, IMHO.

They acknowledged that the sun was making a big difference, but didn't make a big effort to remove that factor (say by running their tests at night).

They didn't compare the 1.8mi hot lap to a 1.8mi hot straight line - going round corners is just weaving in a prescribed manner, after all.

They didn't measure the g-forces generated and compare them between the weaving tests and the hot laps.

All of those would have helped prove something more conclusively, I think.

Richard

And If they'd done all that you still would have found a way to criticize their testing methods

[nothingflash]

I hear you James - I've had to put a lock on the bathroom door .......

Someone told me the other day to wipe the top of my coke can before I drank it because he saw on 60 minutes that when the stuff is stored in warehouses rats piss on them and this has caused deaths.

When will the madness stop?

[rwh]

And If they'd done all that you still would have found a way to criticize their testing methods

I doubt it - because they would have found it did make a difference after all

If a hot lap makes a difference, I don't see how appropriately vigorous weaving couldn't. It might take some effort to do it right, of course.

Richard