Legal defence fund, help Carver!

**Morcs** · 24th September 2009, 16:30

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

Bit late for that. I see at least one dumbass has given.
I might start a thread for a box of piss fund, id really like to get one on the way home from work & id rather someone else paid for it.

If you dont like this thread, please, do me a favour, and kindly Fuck Off.

Thankyou.

**sidecar bob** · 24th September 2009, 16:35

Originally Posted by Morcs

If you dont like this thread, please, do me a favour, and kindly Fuck Off.

Thankyou.

Dude!!!! i LOVE it, in fact its my all time favourite thread ever!!! A wee glimpse into the minds of spoilt brat Gen Y yoofs.
If my kids behaved like this (begging for money & shirking responsibility after carrying on like a cock) id flog them with a wet rope.

**Maha** · 24th September 2009, 16:38

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

Dude!!!! i LOVE it, in fact its my all time favourite thread ever!!! A wee glimpse into the minds of spoilt brat Gen Y yoofs.
If my kids behaved like this (begging for money & shirking responsibility after carrying on like a cock) id flog them with a wet rope.

Carver would like that.......the flogging bit....

**Laava** · 24th September 2009, 16:47

I don't understand it actually! I met you Carver and you seem like a pretty good guy to me plus I applaud your stunt, so why are you defending it? Surely you will man up in court by yourself and say"yes your honour twas me, I did it cos it was there" and take the token fine like a man. You knew when you did it that the cops would come and talk to you, so do yourself a favour and fess up. You will get much more respect and can spend this little fund on a celebration! Not being negative here, just realistic. IMO

**PrincessBandit** · 24th September 2009, 16:58

Yep Carver, consider it your cross to bear for your awesomeness.

**McJim** · 24th September 2009, 17:04

Dangerous use of a motor vehicle is only a motoring offence innit? It's not like you will get a crminal conviction from it anyway. Fine will be prolly be less than legal expenses.

**retro asian** · 24th September 2009, 17:20

Carver you really need to get Sting, Bono and other fab 80's singers to collaborate and record a music video of the Fat Max Carver song... that will get the public on your side!!

**SARGE** · 24th September 2009, 17:32

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

A fuckin hero??? W.T.F. fighting & dying for your country's freedom once made a man a hero, Now it seems you just need to do something idiotic & not the least bit brave & brag about it loudly.
Oh yea, hes a legend, give the man a medal for bravery!!! Grow up.

i like you already....

**Patrick** · 24th September 2009, 17:34

Originally Posted by davereid

Haha what a great stunt, good on ya, thats a laugh.

I can't really see any public good from takin ya to court, with the exception of the fact that you will keep the plod in question off the roads for a day or so while he prepares the case and shows up in court.

And thats worth $20.

Nope... they have file breifers who sit in the office all day, every day, paid well for briefing files. The cop will be out on patrol, still.......

Originally Posted by mowgli

Reference Land Transport Act 1998 No 110
The "on a road" bit was amended out in 2005.
(2) A person may not drive a motor vehicle, or cause a motor vehicle to be driven, at a speed or in a manner which, having regard to all the circumstances, is or might be dangerous to the public or to a person.

Definitely plead not guilty. However IMHO a better defense (than I didn't do it) would be to show that in the circumstances you identified the risks then mitigated them effectively. Training, preparation, weather, equipment, your experience and any safety precautions taken on the day might swing it. Was this in fact dangerous or a carefully planned and executed stunt?

Carefully planned? Nope. Authorities weren't advised, no safety, no first aid/Ambo as a precaution, nothing. Perfectly executed? Yep...

Originally Posted by Swoop

You have admitted doing the stunt.
There is video of you afterwards, admitting doing the stunt.

Your only possibility is to plead gulity to doing the stunt but not to dangerous charges. The time of day would have helped ensure a lack of public around, hence making a safer environment.

I doubt there is a warning sign, saying "no riding motorbikes over the arches" or something like that. I would guess that a sign saying "no pedestrians / no walking over the arches" or similar exists?
You did not walk over the bridge, so complied with that requirement...

"Get a lawyer son. Better get ya'self a real good one..." (as the song goes).

Common sense. Guns don't have a sign "Don't shoot yourself in the head or you may die" either....

But then again, they do have warning signs on cling wrap plastic, saying "don't place over your face or head, as suffocation may result..." No shit Sherlock....

Originally Posted by T.G.W

Yea, skill and bravery for sure.

BUT the difference is that the stunt riders you mention organise it so the cops and local body authorities are notified.

Also ambo's are on site should they be needed.
The media would've rocked up and the whole of NZ would've been watching. This is the fauxpah.

Don't give Bob a hardtime mate, he hangs off the sidecar at phenominal pace on the track. He actually IS a Legend. Scrivy his rider is 6x NZ champ.
Did you go to Paeroa this year

? If so, I rest my case.

Organisation, and non organised, is the clear difference.

Originally Posted by Coldrider

Charge should be using an unavailable lane.......
The problem it is a place that is accessible to the public.

By driving up there, he, as a "member of the public," made it "accessable to the public."

Originally Posted by Swoop

Illegal to ride over the arches on a motorcycle? - Hmm. According to whom, or what rules? How are these (possible) "rules" promulgated?

A "bridge" is a "road." A "bridge" includes the structure, I believe.... But I could be wrong.....

Originally Posted by allycatz

Perhaps cops are worried about the example it sets when Little Johnny trries to ride his BMX over and falls off the bridge.....It was a great stunt but as others have said perhaps some forward planning wouldn't of gone amiss

Well said that man... Ooops... Chickie babe.....

Originally Posted by Mschvs

Obviously he's been prosecuted for something before as otherwise he would get diversion wouldn't he??

No diversion. Carries disqualification, so no diversion.

**SARGE** · 24th September 2009, 17:35

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

I simply hope justice is done.

if there were any justice they woulda pinched his head off at birth

**SARGE** · 24th September 2009, 17:37

Originally Posted by Maha

Green sent....should bump ya run rate up by 134 .....

ditto for another few hundy from me

**Madness** · 24th September 2009, 17:38

Originally Posted by SARGE

if there were any justice they woulda pinched his head off at birth

You talking about our ethnic friend or Carver?

**Ronin** · 24th September 2009, 17:38

Originally Posted by Morcs

You'd better re-read the first post again!

Negativity is relative to individual perception. You didn't clearly state no opinions at all.

**SARGE** · 24th September 2009, 17:39

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

Dude!!!! i LOVE it, in fact its my all time favourite thread ever!!! A wee glimpse into the minds of spoilt brat Gen Y yoofs.
If my kids behaved like this (begging for money & shirking responsibility after carrying on like a cock) id flog them with a wet rope.

i think i love you Bob .. we should hang out ...

its like looking in a mirror...