Legal defence fund, help Carver!

[tri boy]

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I'm addicted to this shit.
Oi Carver! Drag ya homo arse back into this thread and wind it up more.
I don't think the twentysomethings are fighting for your "rights/freedom/and all round cockheadesness'' enough.
The old fulla's(and Fulla'resses) are kicking their arse in argument.

[NDORFN]

This is insane! (haven't read any of this thread yet but the title is enough to form my opinion). Some poor girl with a 6 week old baby lost her partner and provider under tragic circumstances... there is already a thread set up so we can make financial contributions and Carver is asking for donations to pay a fine for doing some stupid trick that's been done before. I would consider making a small contribution, $20-$50 to FIGHT the charges in court (because the one thing crazier about this thread is the fact that someone can't do something on public property causing ZERO damage and if nothing else actually creating positive publicity for a city that has just been labelled "boring" by a high-profile visitor). But there's no way I'm going to encourage Carver's short-sighted hijinks. I strongly encourage you all to do the same.

EDIT: Ok, just been informed that the request is for legal aid. Fair enough. I'll make my contribution after I've donated to the other, needier cause. You better not fucken waste it buttering up Sidewinder for a root though Carver. Serious.

[bsasuper]

Sell all of your motorcycles, that should add another $150.00

[LBD]

Still waiting for an account no....pm me

IMO defending a frivilous charge brought by the police for a person pulling of a successful stunt (or even if not successful) is a bigger picture issue than Carvers well being. I am saying the namby pamby cotton wool state is going to far....next there will be no fishing cause you may drown, no tramping cause you might get lost and put rescuers at risk, no surfing cause you may get in trouble and put the life savers at risk....etc.

Dangerous driving and disqualification? I think Carver has proven himself more in control of a motor vehical than 99 % of road users..(Maybe a little less than the sensibility of 99% of the road users, but then thats not what this is about)

I do tend to agree with those who say face up to it without beating around the bush...I just hope the Judge has enough sense to see that a prosicution/conviction is not in the public good.

[carver]

I think we would all like to know more details on the legal side of things.

I think the not guilty plead is fruitless (though not saying you actually did it!)
I think the way to go would be the circumstances around it and actually contest the dangerous side of things - who was the victim?
People jump out of aeroplanes and skydive - they dont get taken to court!

Johno have you been done for dangerous/careless/reckless before? If not, diversion could be a way to go.

Definately seek legal help, you gotta have a mate of a mate somewhere who can give you some advice before spending $$ trying to defend.

trust me, i have spoken to a lawyer well before this has even been done.
I have no real history with the police
I will have the best lawyer, and i am not bothered about the cost.
i have been questioned, and refused to say anything.
i cannot say too much on here, but my last statement says a lot if it was so black and white

[short-circuit]

refused to say anything.
i cannot say too much on here

That's not like you - gone all shy all of a sudden?

[dangerous]

no doubt you are old, sour pricks, stuck in dead end jobs, cant actually ride, and have fat ugly wives. Its no wonder I think the majority of Kiwis are self richeous, deluded fucking idiots.

Your all showing a lot of balls posting on the internet, but when It comes down to it, none of you have the actual balls to do anything like this, secretly you wish you had when you were youn, or you had a go and failed, whatever.
Faggots.

hmmmm... My job does me well and even tho quite hi up there, I have the ability to go further.
cant ride... you have a lot to learn, that is such a debaters loosers comment.
fat ugley, in the eye of the beholder.
kiwis are what? ok do tell me were you are from, tho I can guess.
balls to post? whtever
balls to do something like this... mate I took on the responsabilty of a family... nothing gets more ballsie than that.
faggots huh? yeah good on ya, on your behalf a very lame post and it reflects some what badly on ya.

[hospitalfood]

Dude!!!! i LOVE it, in fact its my all time favourite stunt ever!!! A wee glimpse into the majic of carver.
my kids would behave like this if i didn't flog them with a wet rope. donation on its way

nice one sidecar, i would donate myself if i was not having to sell toys at present to survive.
I have met carver and he is a nice guy, humble in person. and like you i also think he adds to nz motorcycling.

[Madness]

I actually admire you Carver for your two-wheeled expolits. Some of it's pretty ghey, but overall......

The fact remains that there are people being prosecuted in this country, sometimes with the same charge even, for shit they themselves didn't do. That, in my somewhat biased opinion, is more of an issue than you being charged for something you may have actually done, with some planning and forethought even.

You told me earlier that you got legal advice. There's a good chance that this advice was based on whether you could be convicted, rather than charged. This issue has also become political, what with the media attention. Sometimes too one reaps what they sow.

The po-po seem to be able to throw DD charges at anyone they like, it's then up to you to pay to defend it. This sucks if you didn't do it in the first place, trust me.

I wish you luck in defending the charge, I'm all for a bit of fun. The reality is though, that in this society you have to play by the rules or take the consequences. You got bad advice my friend.

[scumdog]

There seems to be a lot of resentment in this thread, no doubt you are old, sour pricks, stuck in dead end jobs, cant actually ride, and have fat ugly wives. Its no wonder I think the majority of Kiwis are self richeous, deluded fucking idiots.

Your all showing a lot of balls posting on the internet, but when It comes down to it, none of you have the actual balls to do anything like this, secretly you wish you had when you were youn, or you had a go and failed, whatever.

I really dont care, take your shit fight elsewhere.
Shall I go post negative, harsh, insulting shit in other donation threads? Oh No I couldnt do that, and no-one would stand for it.

Go play tough guys elsewhere.

Faggots.

Hell, you're just plain jealous of us eh....

[ital916]

I think we would all like to know more details on the legal side of things.

I think the not guilty plead is fruitless (though not saying you actually did it!)
I think the way to go would be the circumstances around it and actually contest the dangerous side of things - who was the victim?
People jump out of aeroplanes and skydive - they dont get taken to court!

Johno have you been done for dangerous/careless/reckless before? If not, diversion could be a way to go.

Definately seek legal help, you gotta have a mate of a mate somewhere who can give you some advice before spending $$ trying to defend.

If ya jump out a fucking aeroplane where you are not meant to then you go to court. If you ride a motorcycle over a bridge you go to court. If you jump off a bridge and dont die you go to court. If you decide to drive your car over the edge of a cliff and jump out at the last minute and get caught...you go to court. It stops like minded idiots from doing it again.

If you told the police I want to do this stunt. Proved it was not too dangerous. Got permission, closed off the road and did it then bloody hurrah, good on ya.

[Cr1MiNaL]

No diversion. Carries disqualification, so no diversion.

:slap: Y no diversion? FFS

[scumdog]

And we care what a dickhead like you thinks?
Was a harmless stunt- the stuntman getting nailed by the pigs- any self respecting freedom fighter will either donate or offer moral support

Wankers like you dont deserve a motorcycle, you have no concept what theyre about (its called FREEDOM) and no one was hurt and nothing was damaged in this stunt

'freedom fighter'?????mwahahaha, stroll on dreamer.

[Madness]

:slap: Y no diversion? FFS

Beacuse it's now considered a serious charge, you dumb cunt.

[ital916]

I actually admire you Carver for your two-wheeled expolits. Some of it's pretty ghey, but overall......

The fact remains that there are people being prosecuted in this country, sometimes with the same charge even, for shit they themselves didn't do. That, in my somewhat biased opinion, is more of an issue than you being charged for something you may have actually done, with some planning and forethought even.

You told me earlier that you got legal advice. There's a good chance that this advice was based on whether you could be convicted, rather than charged. This issue has also become political, what with the media attention. Sometimes too one reaps what they sow.

The po-po seem to be able to throw DD charges at anyone they like, it's then up to you to pay to defend it. This sucks if you didn't do it in the first place, trust me.

I wish you luck in defending the charge, I'm all for a bit of fun. The reality is though, that in this society you have to play by the rules or take the consequences. You got bad advice my friend.

You dont sound like a madman.....are you sure you are mad, as that is pretty sane sounding talk ,

Didnt some dude on a black r6 not front when others got busted for his antics...or did he front. I heard it through the kb grapevine. What became of it?