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    Quote Originally Posted by cooneyr View Post
    The depth gauge thing is easy as with a syringe and a bit of tube. Measure the distance up from the tip of the tube and mark it, hold that level with the top of the fork and suck out the excess oil. You just need to find a friendly nurse - oh er

    Cheers R
    How the hell do you mark the tube? I used a straw instead of a syringe.

    WAit do you mean you mark the tube to the correct height then put it into the fork with syringe attached? Sounds like a good idea.

    Went & remeasured my forks.
    Measured 263mm from bottom of fork clamp to top of bottom sleeve thing.

    Static (?) sag - bike weight only 64mm. (199mm overall measurement)

    It made no difference with me on it The measurement was the same.

    DOes this sound too little sag to you guys? I'm about to do some research on the KLR thread.

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    The net says 200mm total travel.

    So....
    64mm static = 32% !!!

    Something is weird here.

    Should be more like 30mm static (15%), 60mm race (with you on it).

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    Read one thread that says 25% for front & 30% rear. Went for another ride down the potholed driveway & still think there's not much different. I'll take them out tomm & redo the procedure tho I think I did it correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padmei View Post
    How the hell do you mark the tube? ...
    A vivid???


    Quote Originally Posted by Padmei View Post
    WAit do you mean you mark the tube to the correct height then put it into the fork with syringe attached? Sounds like a good idea.
    Thats the one

    Quote Originally Posted by Padmei View Post
    ...Static (?) sag - bike weight only 64mm. (199mm overall measurement)

    It made no difference with me on it The measurement was the same....
    Something definitely wrong if the sag is the same with not on and with you on. spring length = -spring coefficient x load, so more load will always give shorter length till the spring binds.

    Cheers R
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    Fcuking things - wheres those Mitsi valve springs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moki View Post
    I opted for simply draining the red slimey stuff out overnight then metered the amount in each fork per specs. Did you try to do the 'depth gauge' method trying to find 170mm as per instructions?
    Took the forks out and drained them then used a bit of maked copper tube and just lowered it in till i could see the surface tension break in the sunlight. It did work cos i checked it lots and lots and got the same result.

    Was thinkin about sag etc today at work and am wondering if the benelli valve springs I had in there before gave it too little sag therefore the front wheel would not fall into holes. It sorta could explain the times the front has just gone out from under me more than a few times.

    Just thinkin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padmei View Post
    Read one thread that says 25% for front & 30% rear. Went for another ride down the potholed driveway & still think there's not much different. I'll take them out tomm & redo the procedure tho I think I did it correctly.
    25-30mm static, 50mm race would be closer then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padmei View Post
    How the hell do you mark the tube? I used a straw instead of a syringe.
    Did you get any in your mouth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Padmei View Post
    WAit do you mean you mark the tube to the correct height then put it into the fork with syringe attached?
    Put a cable tie on the tube at the correct length, makes it easy to hold against the top edge of the fork tube. Suck away! Effortless. Use a turkey baster from the $2 shop, just don't forget to wash it before you put it back in the kitchen drawer.

    Quote Originally Posted by cooneyr View Post
    Something definitely wrong if the sag is the same with not on and with you on. spring length = -spring coefficient x load, so more load will always give shorter length till the spring binds.
    Stiction?
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    [QUOTE=warewolf

    Stiction?[/QUOTE]

    he needs to bounce up and down on it a few times prior to measuring the sag.
    been doing some research 25% front 30% rear and 10% static seems to be the go for pre 08. Apparently the 08s don't run much sag from standard.
    Gonna check mine today .
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    Well , checked the sag today, the front was not enough sag and the back got there eventually with some adjustments (sort of).

    Then went for a hoon round the ben nevis loop in the rain and honestly and sorry padmei but the bike has been transformed. The front just stays planted and no longer slides all over the show, pot holes can be ridden over at speed and the back with the raising links and more damping dialled in soaks up the bumps and handles the big hits.(cool)
    Even notice the difference on the road, although with the slower dive the brakes don't appear as effective but they are.

    The itinerantminties and the raising links were money very well spent and I cannot believe the improvement. fcuken oarsum.
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    Great news Woodster.
    I managed to wangle a little time off so went over the whangas & out to Hori Bay. Fcuk the whangas are cool! Still I didn't feel any difference really apart from the front seemed higher.

    Called into see Nordie & had a chat about them. I would like to ride yours & compare them. In the meantime I'll drain the forks & redo the installation & if nothing happens I'll try with the original spacers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padmei View Post
    Great news Woodster.
    I managed to wangle a little time off so went over the whangas & out to Hori Bay. Fcuk the whangas are cool! Still I didn't feel any difference really apart from the front seemed higher.

    Called into see Nordie & had a chat about them. I would like to ride yours & compare them. In the meantime I'll drain the forks & redo the installation & if nothing happens I'll try with the original spacers.
    Seems odd to me, must be something obvious surely, unless it was handling pretty good anyway so there is no noticeable differencee, and mine was handling like a sack of shit so anything is an improvement. BTW the Benelli valve springs were not put in and won't be now.

    keen as to let you have a go as a comparo, it would be interesting to see wot yours is like, that and have never ridden an 08.
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    pretty cool aye, wouldn't mind one of the euro calipers, cos my front brakes are crap really. Oh god I can feel another farkle coming on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    Seems odd to me, must be something obvious surely, unless it was handling pretty good anyway so there is no noticeable differencee, and mine was handling like a sack of shit so anything is an improvement. BTW the Benelli valve springs were not put in and won't be now.

    keen as to let you have a go as a comparo, it would be interesting to see wot yours is like, that and have never ridden an 08.
    Padmei has quite a bit of static sag - more than I'd want for race sag. Slogged springs?
    Lots of brake dive too...
    May come a bit more right with the right sag.

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