View Poll Results: Which firearm types do you own?

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  • Shotgun (single, double, pump, lever, bolt)

    291 31.91%
  • Shotgun Auto (non MSSA)

    96 10.53%
  • Rifle (single, double, pump, lever, bolt)

    408 44.74%
  • Rifle Auto (non MSSA)

    177 19.41%
  • MSSA

    66 7.24%
  • Pistol

    78 8.55%
  • Black powder (rifle, pistol, shotgun)

    35 3.84%
  • Air/Gas (pistol, rifle)

    313 34.32%
  • un-armed

    305 33.44%
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  1. #4351
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    so if my max load is 43 grains, should i start off at 38.7 gr and work my way up from there?

    what sorta increments should i go up in? up in 0.5gr increments?

    how many rounds should i make of each one? 6? - 2 3 shot groups?
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    Quote Originally Posted by renegade master View Post
    so if my max load is 43 grains, should i start off at 38.7 gr and work my way up from there?

    what sorta increments should i go up in? up in 0.5gr increments?

    how many rounds should i make of each one? 6? - 2 3 shot groups?
    I had a listed starting load, so I chose 5 evenly spaced loads and made 10 of each.

    How many steps you do and how many of each you load probably depends on how expensive it is and how many rounds you think you need to fire to be confident of how accurate the ammo is.

    Maybe start off with 5 different loads going from 39 to 43 in 1 gr increments with 3 shots each? Once you have a 'feel' for what those are like to shoot and they are working nicely in your gun with no issues then choose a couple and load up a few more. If you want to keep the loads high-power then choose a couple of the higher ones and make 6 rounds of each to test them a little more thoroughly.

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    i have 86 cases, i'll make 10 rounds at 0.5 grain group.

    its a bit moot as i didnt trim the cases, and i've already primed them all - no way im de priming them so i can trim them! took me over an hour!
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    Quote Originally Posted by renegade master View Post
    i have 86 cases, i'll make 10 rounds at 0.5 grain group.

    its a bit moot as i didnt trim the cases, and i've already primed them all - no way im de priming them so i can trim them! took me over an hour!
    Gotta be careful with de-priming primed cases, too! Was suggesting the case trimming as why you may have been having crimping issues? Case length doesn't matter for a taper crimp but does for a roll crimp. Longer cases will crimp more, shorter will crimp less.

    Crimping issue all sorted?

    I wouldn't load too many to start with. I did 10 because that is 2 of my usual strings of 5 rounds. For a rifle you shouldn't need 10 rounds at each powder division. 6 would be heaps, 3 would be enough I would have thought?

    I think you're mostly doing it at the different levels so you can slowly work up to max with hopefully some warning signs at lower pressure if you've got something wrong (temp sensitive powder, bullet seated too low or in the rifling etc.). You shouldn't need to test every 0.5gr change 10 times, at least not to start with. If you get halfway through and find you're getting some issues then thats a lot of cartridges to break down again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jono035 View Post
    Gotta be careful with de-priming primed cases, too! Was suggesting the case trimming as why you may have been having crimping issues? Case length doesn't matter for a taper crimp but does for a roll crimp. Longer cases will crimp more, shorter will crimp less.

    Crimping issue all sorted?

    I wouldn't load too many to start with. I did 10 because that is 2 of my usual strings of 5 rounds. For a rifle you shouldn't need 10 rounds at each powder division. 6 would be heaps, 3 would be enough I would have thought?

    I think you're mostly doing it at the different levels so you can slowly work up to max with hopefully some warning signs at lower pressure if you've got something wrong (temp sensitive powder, bullet seated too low or in the rifling etc.). You shouldn't need to test every 0.5gr change 10 times, at least not to start with. If you get halfway through and find you're getting some issues then thats a lot of cartridges to break down again!
    im not a good shot tho, might take 10 to get it on the paper
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    Quote Originally Posted by renegade master View Post
    im not a good shot tho, might take 10 to get it on the paper
    Hahaha fair enough, just don't do what I did and end up with a hundred loaded rounds that are relatively useless...

    Are you going to test accuracy by shooting from a rest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jono035 View Post
    Hahaha fair enough, just don't do what I did and end up with a hundred loaded rounds that are relatively useless...

    Are you going to test accuracy by shooting from a rest?
    I wouldnt mind a rest, it would come in handy for reloading - takes all my errors in shooting out of the equation but money is real tight for me atm, im buying bike bits!
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    Quote Originally Posted by renegade master View Post
    I wouldnt mind a rest, it would come in handy for reloading - takes all my errors in shooting out of the equation but money is real tight for me atm, im buying bike bits!
    Didn't mean a proper bench-rest type thing... Just a pack to shoot off or something so you're not shooting freehand?

    Given the stuff to the powdercoater?

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    powdercoating is cheap, these mirrors were not

    oh yeah, i'll use a pack to shoot off at chirs's next time i can get out there
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    Quote Originally Posted by jono035 View Post
    Didn't mean a proper bench-rest type thing... Just a pack to shoot off or something so you're not shooting freehand
    Or pinch the ironing board - tell the missus she'll have to make do with only doing the vaccuming, dishes, dusting, mowing the lawns, washing the windows...

    She can always catch up on the ironing when you get back - while you're having a few beers...

    Motorbike Camping for the win!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf View Post
    Or pinch the ironing board - tell the missus she'll have to make do with only doing the vaccuming, dishes, dusting, mowing the lawns, washing the windows...

    She can always catch up on the ironing when you get back - while you're having a few beers...

    That's a good point! Might be a little hazardous to my health though...

    RM: You're getting yourself a set of those? That's not a cheap proposition for sure!

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    Think I found my deer/goat/plinking rifle

    http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Hunt...-245545673.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by wbks View Post
    Think I found my deer/goat/plinking rifle

    http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Hunt...-245545673.htm
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    This auction was removed by trade me earlier as it was mistaken for an MSSA.
    "Ooh, it's got wuna them deadly pistol grips on it, take it off, quick." Twunts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf View Post
    "Ooh, it's got wuna them deadly pistol grips on it, take it off, quick." Twunts!
    I thought bolt actions didn't qualify as MSSA? I notice there are a few sellers selling their SKS' without a stock saying "comes without pistol grip, its lost in my house" or similar

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    Quote Originally Posted by wbks View Post
    I thought bolt actions didn't qualify as MSSA? I notice there are a few sellers selling their SKS' without a stock saying "comes without pistol grip, its lost in my house" or similar
    There was something that happened where a bolt-action rifle that could be converted with factory parts to a semi-auto was classified as an MSSA due to the stock.

    Can't remember the details, though.

    Edit: Just looked at the auction you linked and yeah, there is no way anyone should be confusing that for a semi auto or anything, wtf?

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