Slagging off partners or spouses or parents

[Mekk]

If a lot of people say you are wrong, does this make you wrong?
Of course not. But it does raise 2 possibilities that you should consider.
1) You are wrong
2) You really fucked up on the communication of your ideas.
On that basis.

I would guess that what you were trying to say in the first quote is actually what you said in the second one.
If so see 2 above, if not see 1 above

The second quote is a response to a different question, why didn't you include that?

"The problem with enforcing strict politeness policies and whatnot, you risk interfering with the very attraction and "essence" of the internet."

And the downside would be?
KB operates on a set of rules and this has caused what problems?

The downside is that you lose your privacy, or you lose the ability to share information quickly and easily.

[Bass]

This is largely a digression anyway, the point is that it is easier to say without consequence and thus should be expected..

Ah but my point was that on this forum at least, there is a good chance that there will indeed be consequences

Why get upset about what an anonymous person/bot says about you or your family? Nobody gets upset about spam e-mails telling them to enlarge their cock, do they?

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Spam is one thing but what we are discussing here is quite another.
The difference is individual targeting - the blunderbus vs the sniper's rifle

[Mekk]

Ah but my point was that on this forum at least, there is a good chance that there will indeed be consequences

Only with people that interact with the community offline. If you were a troller, why would you?

Also, it's unlikely but you don't have to be from New Zealand to stir the proverbial.

Spam is one thing but what we are discussing here is quite another.
The difference is individual targeting - the blunderbus vs the sniper's rifle

This isn't like a schoolyard bully that prevents you from doing anything about it. Even if you let it bother you, there are plenty of options in dealing with it.

My question is, why would you let it bother you?

[MSTRS:Me]

My question is, why would you let it bother you?

If you can't do anything about it, ignore.
But if you can, then organise to get 'facetime' with the cause.

[The Stranger:Me]

The second quote is a response to a different question, why didn't you include that?

Cool, that answers it thanks.
I had hoped that it was simply that you were having trouble with communication, but I see my first point is on the mark.

The downside is that you lose your privacy, or you lose the ability to share information quickly and easily.

So KB doesn't have privacy and doesn't have the ability quickly and easily share information?

Hmm, information.
Many youf on here (and DB) come up with random confused thoughts that they mistake for information. Sorry to be the one to tell you this, but just like the dribble you have been posting in here it's not.
I for one could well get by without it and dare I say it, KB would be a better place for the lack of dribble.

Ah but this is not the Internet way is it?
This is the very "information" we would miss out on with structure.
What a shame, it would be to lose that.

[Bass]

This isn't like a schoolyard bully that prevents you from doing anything about it. Even if you let it bother you, there are plenty of options in dealing with it.

My question is, why would you let it bother you?

Because if we none of us care, it becomes acceptable and in my belief system at least, that's wrong.

Some one comes and steals your bike. Like as not, the cops don't care and you will never see it again.
All the logic about anonymity and consequences that you have espoused, applies here too.
Why would you let it bother you?

[jetboy]

People call me all sorts of names, both on the internet and too my face. If it's on the internet I really couldn't care less because hey, it's the internet. If it was too my face, well then that's a different story.

The thing is that people take it too far sometimes. Saying that someones wife is a minx or a MILF is understandable. Saying that she is a dirty, filthy ho-bag after a quick buck is probably over the line.

Because if we none of us care, it becomes acceptable and in my belief system at least, that's wrong.

True, however unfortunately the internet has given people a voice, and some people tend to excersize that voice by being a hero on the internet....forums are littered with bullshit comments like "I'll kick your ass if you were here", "my penis is bigger than yours", and "Hondas are gay".

But hey, I ride a Honda so what do I know - right?

[Mekk]

If you can't do anything about it, ignore.
But if you can, then organise to get 'facetime' with the cause.

Yup, exactly. Thing is, on here there's plenty you can do about it if you can't ignore it.

So KB doesn't have privacy and doesn't have the ability quickly and easily share information?

Hmm, information.
Many youf on here (and DB) come up with random confused thoughts that they mistake for information. Sorry to be the one to tell you this, but just like the dribble you have been posting in here it's not.
I for one could well get by without it and dare I say it, KB would be a better place for the lack of dribble.

Ah but this is not the Internet way is it?
This is the very "information" we would miss out on with structure.
What a shame, it would be to lose that.

I also mentioned being able to quickly share information.

Let's say for example the site owners decided to make it harder for jerkoffs to be able to post shit. They could make it so that you have to enter a captcha every time you post, they could make it so that you have to take an IQ test before you post. They can search for words that you're not allowed to use and stop you from posting. There's any number of restrictions they could apply that would make everyone's life more difficult and thus hinder the sharing of information.

Obviously the above examples are extreme to illustrate my point.

Something that isn't so extreme, is installing a filter that doesn't let you post anything that contains swear words.

THAT is what I am talking about.

A better solution, in my opinion, is to accept and expect there to be fucktards out there, use the moderators and ignore the rest.

[jetboy]

....installing a filter that doesn't let you post anything that contains swear words.

THAT is what I am talking about.

A better solution, in my opinion, is to accept and expect there to be fucktards out there, use the moderators and ignore the rest.

Your post would have been blocked.

[MSTRS:Me]

Yup, exactly. Thing is, on here there's plenty you can do about it if you can't ignore it.

We must have convinced you of the error in your earlier statements. The one where you seemed to be convinced that the power of anonymity on the internet meant no consequences for the slimy shit talkers...
The perception of anonymity remains for anyone not yet 'caught up with'.

[Mekk]

Your post would have been blocked.

Hah, so would your avatar!

We must have convinced you of the error in your earlier statements. The one where you seemed to be convinced that the power of anonymity on the internet meant no consequences for the slimy shit talkers...
The perception of anonymity remains for anyone not yet 'caught up with'.

No meaningful consequences for the perp. Nothing to make them think shit, maybe I shouldn't do this. I believe it is still possible to remain completely anonymous, regardless of where you're residing.

Well it's not just a perception, they are anonymous if they choose to be. Because someone uses this site, doesn't mean that they must be 'caught up with'.

[MSTRS:Me]

You have much to learn

[Sidewinder]

There has always been a degree of slagging off kb'ers family members, often in the guise of "friendly" banter.

Now, I have no problem with people here calling their friends or a person on here who they despise 'bastard', 'prick' or 'dumb shit', or whatever as matey joshing around or hostile words. What I do think is poor form is personally sledging someone's partner/spouse/siblings/parents etc. who have nothing to do with this site or nothing to do personally with the sledgee.

There seems to be a bit of it going around at the moment, noticeably when one long standing member here dredged up an old bone to have a dig at someone via a comment about their wife. You know who you are.

If you have a problem with a kber sort it out between you, but lay off family members who don't have a voice on here. I find it really offensive that people seem to think it clever or funny to attack someone by having a go at their parents or wife or kids - even more so if they are deceased. (No, this does not pertain to the above paragraph).

Slagging off "the parents", "the wife" etc. just to wind someone up stinks.

what i find even more funny is how everyone takes the internet so seresously its like omg get over it, its only the net its not the end off the fucking world. dont like it dont stay that easy.

my 5cents and more worth

[The Stranger:Me]

I also mentioned being able to quickly share information.

-snip extraneoues PD-

Something that isn't so extreme, is installing a filter that doesn't let you post anything that contains swear words.

THAT is what I am talking about.

For fuck sake information can bloody well be quickly disseminated with courtesy and without swear words, what a load of shit dick head.

OR

Information can be quickly disseminated with courtesy and without swear words.




Yes I can really see how a swear filter would impede the progress of civilisation.

[Mekk]

my 5cents and more worth

I agree with this man.

Yes I can really see how a swear filter would impede the progress of civilisation.

You can't see anything I'm saying, and frankly you're not trying.