Well bikers are screwed - ACC levy

[gunnyrob]

Fuck me, there I was writing letters to the editor of AA magazine to give them a rocket for wanting bikers to pay tolls through the northern gateway tunnel last week.

Letter to Nick Smith sent, will attend BRONZ meeting next Wed.

[cs363]

Fuck me, there I was writing letters to the editor of AA magazine to give them a rocket for wanting bikers to pay tolls through the northern gateway tunnel last week.

Yeah...that's starting to look like a bit of a storm in a teacup now isn't it?
Bloody AA certainly seems to have it in for motorcyclists at the moment, pricks.

[325rocket]

What about charity rides like the Westpac ride and the pink ribbon ride? With an ACC levy like that the number of riders showing up to these things is bound to decrease...

I think you will find it wont make a difference. Most of the people that attend those rides do so because they care and are good people. The same people will go, we will just be poorer ... and very anti national!

but i get what your saying.

[Bangbug]

Fuck me, there I was writing letters to the editor of AA magazine to give them a rocket for wanting bikers to pay tolls through the northern gateway tunnel last week.

Letter to Nick Smith sent, will attend BRONZ meeting next Wed.

Mate got billed for his rally car on the toll road...... it was on a trailer....... guilty till proven innocent

[Pedrostt500]

Maybe its time for the ACC books to be fully opened to the public.
I will from now on be making every ACC claim that I can, rather than ignoring small injuries.
These rises dont just affect us as riders, but the whole motorcycle industry, all the way to the top. If there are bike shops doing it hard now they will be closed for good after this is implimented, So off road guys this will affect you to.
I geuss we should have figured something was up with all the anti-Motorcycle articals that have been coming out, over the last few months, particurly those around crash statistics.
So my geuss is their next move will be to try and write us off as a bunch of wingers and spoilt brats, and try to get us off side with the general public, we will be assulted with more anti motorcycle articals in the medias, the Police will be given the directive to do more Motorcycle REG & WOF checks, and you can garantee the fines for not having either will go up accordingly.

[ready4whatever]

Tried finding out where this cunt lives, no wonder its a PO box. give him a call tomorrow 03-547 2314

[saffa]

I think we should organise a massive ride through Auckland queen street and make sure everyone on the ride submits a letter to ACC complaining

[6ft5]

How to make a submission

LEtter sent - we should swamp them

[spacemonkey]

The thing that gets me is that ACC has enough in reserve for at least three years business operations. This is the biggest amount of reserves that they have had for some time. Some commentators are arguing that ACC is NOT BROKEN - so why is the govt trying to fix it?? Ah, politics...

But on the other hand - and thats the hand on my wallet - having just bought a litre bike and keeping the commuter wheels, a major increase like this will mean that I will probably just run one rego across two bikes...

And I'm keen on participating in any protest...

Rev

The National party essentially want to be rid of ACC and usher in Aussie style (more expensive) privatized health care.

Best way to get rid of something is to break it so bad it HAS to be replaced. They promised not to privatize it in their first term (personally I doubt they will keep that one), so obviously they are all set to trash the ACC system making it hyper unpopular and so setting it up to replace it.

[rustic101]

How to make a submission

To make a submission, you need to write to us advising us what you think. As well as commenting on the proposed levy changes for the year, you can comment on all aspects of the ACC Scheme.

Your submission must include:

* Your name

* Your address

* Your contact phone number(s)

No point sitting around complaining, time to drag bum off couch and do something. Heres what I've written feel free to add borrow or whatever, I have not submitted this yet, group comments are welcome - good luck everyone..

RE: ACC Levy’s for motorcyclists
To whom it may concern.
I was astounded this evening to learn via the media that the proposed ACC Levy’s for motorcyclist are to be raised to such a high level, a level that has the motorcycle community uttering such things as, extortion, robbery, as well as a lot of expletives that would be counter - productive to this submission.

The general feeling is that motorcyclist’s are being unfairly singled out and there are arguments about car drivers causing most motorcycle accidents by not seeing the oncoming motorcyclists and so on and so forth. You would have heard these arguments before so I’m not going to digress down that line of thought.

Different tariffs based on a motorcycles engine size also raises many arguments. I live in Dunedin a student city and regularly observe students on small scooters weaving in and out of traffic wearing, jandals, shorts and T-shirts.

I’m a motorcyclists that rides a 1000cc 100 horse power motorcycle, but there are 600cc motorcycles that have more horse power than my 1000cc 100 horse power machine.

I spend money on the machine to ensure it is maintained to a high standard of safety, I wear a quality helmet, gloves, boots jacket and trousers with Kevlar linings, and even though the government just recently passed a law so that all motorcyclists ride with the headlight on during day, myself and many other motorcyclists have actually been doing just that for years past.

I have a family a mortgage and a cat, and I work damn hard for my money, and I am quite frankly not in the position to pay this amount of money and I will not.

The only options that are open to myself and many others is to either.
• Register for 12 months and be poorer.
• Register for 3 months of the year and risk a fine for the other 9 months.
• Register for 6 months of the year and risk a fine for the other 6 months.
• Not Register at all and risk a fine for 12 months.

Riding in a group will raise the risk of an accident to a degree, but it also lowers the risk of police fines.


You can send your submission:

By post:
Levy Consultation
ACC
PO Box 242
Wellington 6140

By fax:
04 918 4395

By email:
consultation@acc.co.nz

The deadline for submissions is 5.00 pm, 10 November 2009

ACC figures show 54,400 motorcycles over 600cc, double the number for those 126-600cc. More and more riders returning to motorcycling (as distinct from the scooter brigade) are males over 35, who ride predominantly on weekends, carry passengers and luggage and generally use the bikes for pleasure. Typically this group has more disposable income and will purchase larger machines. Weekend rides usually involve rural roads and higher speeds. As many writers point out, getting into trouble on a bike for going too fast is just as easy on a 500cc machine (arguably the smaller bikes have budget brakes, tyres and suspension) , and we all know how the typical 1500cc cruiser will fare lined up against a GSXR600.
The under 125cc group have lower risk, simply because those machines are typically used in a lower speed urban environment – primarily for transport and not so much for pleasure. Whilst the likelihood of a crash is higher, injury severity is generally lower.
The point I am making is that the crashes are not necessarily because of the capacity of the machine, but simply because there are a hell of a lot more older riders out there on bigger machines , thus more exposed to risk. If we all moved tomorrow to 599cc bikes, my view is that the risk profile will be the same. Age, errors, other vehicles and exposure to risk are not cc dependent.
Linking engine capacity to the argument is specious – in fact it is really a differential rate that correlates just as well with age and disposable income (again, generally a factor of age). The same linkages could be applied to bike prices – the more expensive bikes would correlate to a greater claim rate. Again, ccs are not causative. It could be argued that this is discrimination on the basis of age – a breach of Section 21(1)(i) of the Human Rights Act 1993.
If they are going to screw us, they should apply it evenly across the group, not single out the older riders by virtue of machine choice.
Any lawyers out there have a view on this?

[ready4whatever]

Police will be given the directive to do more Motorcycle REG & WOF checks, and you can garantee the fines for not having either will go up accordingly.

Yeah man police will be on the look-out for bikers even more now, after all of us saying this shit

[craisin]

so this cant be about raising money to win the World Cup Rugby you know that game that give f all to ACC but takes a lot

[Daz]

I reckon its a fair bet that a large percentage of motorcyclists own a car as well and pay ACC levies on that too. I dont know about the rest of you, but I am incapable of driving both at the same time.

I used to feel hard done by having to pay levies on both the bike and the car!

[ready4whatever]

Mr Smiths inbox getting abit full now huh? and thats only KB members. Luckily its expandable memory, so he gets them all

[Pedrostt500]

So how do we go about putting together a Lobby Group for Motorcyclists, Yes we have BRONZ, but do they have the ability to win political favour for us, are the funded well enough to take on some legal fights, this is not just about taking on Politicians but also taking on back room beauracrats, ( if you have ever seen the comedy series "Yes Minister", you will understand what I mean.).