BIKEOI Wellington

[StoneY]

On the whole "thousand bikers" thing, will the carpark be marshalled? That is - will there be someone or some people in a white coat to put some order to the parking?

TBA (to be arranged)

Council promised reserved space, and im approaching Vic about using spare pavement as overflow

[Cloggy]

Some marshalling will be required. That is were us locals could help. Especially once the front carpark is full and we'll need to start directing people to the road around the back of Avalon Park.
Megaphone(s) is/are going to come in handy. Anyone have access to these?
Last night there was mention of riding/behaviour standards and some concerns around these especially for people who would normally not ride in a group or don't belong to a club.
Would it be an idea to create little flyers to be handed out to people as they arrive at the meeting points to remind them of the standards of behaviour required? I was thinking little ones, an A4 sheet cut into 4 (A6?). One possible issue with doing this is that no doubt hundreds of these would be dropped and start blowing about requiring a clean-up operation once the bikes leave the meeting points.

[nothingflash]

One possible issue with doing this is that no doubt hundreds of these would be dropped and start blowing about requiring a clean-up operation once the bikes leave the meeting points.

This is brilliant - every detail is being taken into account!

I for one would definitely get good value from a flyer as you suggest.

[Bald Eagle]

Rgister here if you are attending the Wellington BIKEOI.

Registration is voluntary but desirable please. We need some idea of numbers.

WELLINGTON BIKEOI

[Laxi]

1 on bike and the wifes going in in the car

[StoneY]

Some marshalling will be required.
Would it be an idea to create little flyers to be handed out to people as they arrive at the meeting points to remind them of the standards of behaviour required?

Under control, Gubb has that under way

This is brilliant - every detail is being taken into account!
I for one would definitely get good value from a flyer as you suggest.

As above

Now to Marshals, 325 rocket is offering use of good quality RTs, so once we start arriving need some locals


Thanks Cloggy mate, another detail filled (and assigned????)

[Pedrostt500]

I will be attending, have booked the 16th and 17th off work.

[325rocket]

I will be attending, have booked the 16th and 17th off work.

ill be there but is it the 16th or 17th???

[Cloggy]

Thanks Cloggy mate, another detail filled (and assigned????)

Mission accepted

[Jantar]

Is this the national Bikeoi, or is Wellington holding a seperate one on a different date? As worded I imagine a lot of people outside Wellington won't even read it.

[325rocket]

Under control, Gubb has that under way



As above

Now to Marshals, 325 rocket is offering use of good quality RTs, so once we start arriving need some locals


Thanks Cloggy mate, another detail filled (and assigned????)

ill also help marshal if you like

[daves]

Hey guys have just joined and see that things are starting to get going,I thought you may want to see the reply I got from Jim Anderton today,so there is hope yet
If I wasn't 600 km from Wellington I would be on the ride,cheers

Dear Dave,

Thank you for your message regarding the proposal to increase the ACC levy payable by owners of motor bikes, in some cases by several hundred per cent.

I am opposed to this for two principal reasons:

The first is that it is not necessary. The ACC fund is not in a financial crisis as the current National led government claims. The scheme as originally constituted was a ‘pay as you go’ scheme i.e. the levies received in any one year meet the requirements for payments in that year. In fact the recent history of the scheme has been that the income more than meets the payment requirements. The same applies to, for example, national superannuation. In that case the identification of the effect of the ‘baby boom’ generation coming to retirement and creating a demand ‘bulge’ on the commitment to pay universal pensions at a reasonable level can be anticipated and planned for ( the so-called ‘Cullen’ fund). If the ACC funding was in crisis this could be handled in the same way, but it is not in crisis and no amount of insisting that it is on the part of the present Minister can make it so.

The problem arises because the current government insists that all of the future financial obligations of the fund must be funded in the present. That would make sense if the ACC was an insurance scheme – which it is not and was never intended to be. It makes even more sense if the government has a hidden agenda – which looks increasingly likely – to privatise the ACC or farm parts of it out to insurance companies. In those circumstances, a fully funded scheme in which the fund has been paid for by taxpayers would look a very attractive proposition to a private insurer, but it is one to which I am entirely opposed.

The second reason is that the ACC scheme was never intended to be a user pays scheme in which those who allegedly incur specific costs must, as a group, also meet those costs in full. The scheme is intended to draw upon the overall resources of the community to ensure that those who suffer an accident do not find themselves disadvantaged because they cannot afford treatment or rehabilitation, or meet the expenses associated with a lengthy court case. I note that Sir Owen Woodhouse, whose report led to the setting up of the scheme in 1973 has very recently said precisely that. Saying that motor cyclists must pay much more than presently because they are ‘responsible’ for their accidents not only breaches the principal behind the scheme, it also re-introduces the notion of fault into the scheme when it was set up in the first place to avoid it.

Please be assured that I will be opposing the proposed increased levy and that we in the Progressive Party are committed to restoring the scheme to its original basis when we return to government.

Warm regards,

Jim Anderton
MP for Wigram
Progressive Party Leader

[Pedrostt500]

Since there will be large Numbers of bikers at both main gathering areas, we may need either a loud hailer or PA so that who ever is taking care of the pre ride breif, on the ride can be heard.

[James Deuce]

Yay. One retiring MP GAS.

[StoneY]

ill also help marshal if you like

Mission accepted

Boys, you have that task its all yours I will advise the coordinators

Thank you both,
good to see the Ridge Runners making a contribution all round

Daves, thanks ofr that information, good post