ACC levies for cyclists backwards thinking.

**The Stranger:Me** · 11th November 2009, 15:27

Hmm, an ally perhaps.

**The Pastor** · 11th November 2009, 15:31

i pay acc PER VECHICLE. Why don't cyclists?

**James Deuce** · 11th November 2009, 16:33

If training pelotons are specifically banned, I'll support cyclists wholeheartedly.

**george formby** · 11th November 2009, 17:03

A potential allie when it comes to safer roads any hoo. Like it says in the article, acc levys on bicycles cannot be administered. Potentially another angle coming from this is environmental. Bikes are relatively clean & do not cause congestion. Of course the one eyed bean counters cannot see past their casio's to promote better transport options. Right, I'm off to nut a brick wall.

**McJim** · 11th November 2009, 17:22

Originally Posted by renegade master

i pay acc PER VECHICLE. Why don't cyclists?

I'd be very surprised if I discovered you had always paid your registration.

**The Pastor** · 11th November 2009, 17:58

Originally Posted by McJim

I'd be very surprised if I discovered you had always paid your registration.

It gets back dated, so you have to.

**idleidolidyll** · 11th November 2009, 18:02

Originally Posted by renegade master

i pay acc PER VECHICLE. Why don't cyclists?

because then I'd be paying for 2 motorcycles, 1 car and 6 bicycles: a bit over the top dontcha think?

Much better to take it out of income taxes and not out of ANY vehicle tax

**The Pastor** · 11th November 2009, 18:04

Originally Posted by idleidolidyll

because then I'd be paying for 2 motorcycles, 1 car and 6 bicycles: a bit over the top dontcha think?

Much better to take it out of income taxes and not out of ANY vehicle tax

Totally agree with you, but in that article it used the defense that they already pay ACC from there other vehicles.

**EJT** · 11th November 2009, 18:06

"Cyclists represent just 3.6% of the total cost of ACC claims involving crashes with motor vehicles, with studies showing motorists are at fault over 70% of the time."

"An NZTA report last week noted that if we return to 1980's levels of cycling, 116 lives would be saved just from the health benefits and reduced air pollution."

Probably the two most interesting parts of the article. Can't see the govt requiring regos for cycles but who knows with this crowd. Might have to register my finger when I pick my nose the way we are going.

**peasea** · 11th November 2009, 18:20

Originally Posted by EJT

"Cyclists represent just 3.6% of the total cost of ACC claims involving crashes with motor vehicles, with studies showing motorists are at fault over 70% of the time."

"An NZTA report last week noted that if we return to 1980's levels of cycling, 116 lives would be saved just from the health benefits and reduced air pollution."

Probably the two most interesting parts of the article. Can't see the govt requiring regos for cycles but who knows with this crowd. Might have to register my finger when I pick my nose the way we are going.

Aha! A snot tax, to with the fart tax, to go with the bonk tax to go with the........

**riffer** · 11th November 2009, 18:28

Originally Posted by idleidolidyll

because then I'd be paying for 2 motorcycles, 1 car and 6 bicycles: a bit over the top dontcha think?

Much better to take it out of income taxes and not out of ANY vehicle tax

You think that's bad... I'm the only income earner in this family.

I'd have to pay for:

Honda Odyssey car
Suzuki RF900R bike
Suzuki Katana bike
adults 26" wheeled mountain bike (mine)
adults 26" wheeled mountain bike (Gini's)
adults 26" wheeled mountain bike (Tim)
teenagers 20" wheeled bike (Jess)
kids 20" wheeled mountain bike (Zach)
kids 16" wheeled bike (Nicky)
kids 12" wheeled bike (Nicky)
Haro BMX race bike (Tim)

Not to mention three scooters (push ones), three skateboards, and a couple of three wheelers.

Sheesh.

**Pixie** · 11th November 2009, 18:47

Originally Posted by riffer

You think that's bad... I'm the only income earner in this family.

I'd have to pay for:

Honda Odyssey car
Suzuki RF900R bike
Suzuki Katana bike
adults 26" wheeled mountain bike (mine)
adults 26" wheeled mountain bike (Gini's)
adults 26" wheeled mountain bike (Tim)
teenagers 20" wheeled bike (Jess)
kids 20" wheeled mountain bike (Zach)
kids 16" wheeled bike (Nicky)
kids 12" wheeled bike (Nicky)
Haro BMX race bike (Tim)

Not to mention three scooters (push ones), three skateboards, and a couple of three wheelers.

Sheesh.

Would have been cheaper to get a vasectomy

**GOONR** · 11th November 2009, 19:31

Originally Posted by riffer

You think that's bad... I'm the only income earner in this family.

I'd have to pay for:

Honda Odyssey car
Suzuki RF900R bike
Suzuki Katana bike
adults 26" wheeled mountain bike (mine)
adults 26" wheeled mountain bike (Gini's)
adults 26" wheeled mountain bike (Tim)
teenagers 20" wheeled bike (Jess)
kids 20" wheeled mountain bike (Zach)
kids 16" wheeled bike (Nicky)
kids 12" wheeled bike (Nicky)
Haro BMX race bike (Tim)

Not to mention three scooters (push ones), three skateboards, and a couple of three wheelers.

Sheesh.

You missed out the wheelbarrow at the end of the garden.

**Leseid** · 11th November 2009, 20:04

I'm no lawyer here, but a Motor Vehicle is obliviously a vehicle with a motor.

MOTOR VEHICLE - Includes an automobile, automobile truck, automobile wagon, motorcycle, or any other self-propelled vehicle designed for running on land but not on rails.

So what do you legally call a vehicle with no motor? A Non-motor Vehicle?

A Non-motor Vehicle levy, now I'm no politician ether but this sounds like a really amateur politician policy proposal. Think I might buy some shares in a red tape factory!