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    Bugger it, I'm going to reword it for you, so in future you know how to handle yourself slightly more professionally.

    Quote Originally Posted by transpro View Post
    Hi Everyone,
    I am Shahil Chand, owner and director of Transpro. I have been running this company for over 3 years during which my team has [been paid to help] hundreds of riders through the safe handling and transportation of bikes - to date we do not have a single complaint by way of damage to bikes and have maintained a 100% track record. We have transported anything and everything from rolling-body wrecks to customized $250,000 imports and have had a rapid rise in reputation and market share against our competitors, many of whom have been doing this far longer than us.
    On the 31st of October, one of our tandem axle transporter trailers (being towed behind an 8-tonne Isuzu) ran into problems while on the Southern Motorway between East Tamaki and Highbrooke Exit (which the police later on termed "Section 33"). Both tyres on the left hand were punctured on the trailer and our driver was forced to park his truck on the side of the road as the trailer was grounded due to the 2.5 tonne load (There was another Subaru Legacy in the trailer as well). The driver ensured the trailer was parked safely and contacted me to organize a tow while he carried on with other drop-offs - which I did with Fairfax towing (there aren't many towing companies in Auckland area which have trucks large enough to cater for a 8 metre 2.5 tonne covered trailer apparently). At around 1-2 PM, the owner of the towing company contacted me to advise that he hadn't located the trailer in the area advised. I contact the police on 111 and spoke with NorthComms and AucklandComms to see if any of their officers had authorised a tow. They had a note on their system saying that our trailer had been sighted in section 33 by an officer as stranded and it had been stickered for a tow after 24 hours if hadnt been removed. There were no tow authorities logged, hence the police hadnt organised anyone to tow it. The operator from NorthComms also rang around the authorised towing companies servicing that area and apparently none of them had towed it away. That only left the possibilty of it being stolen and after nearly 3 hours of searching, I personally went into Porirua police station and filed a theft report. I had also contacted "Grasshoporus" [text deleted due to threatening tone] to inform him of these developments and provided him with a Case number within an hour after logging it.

    After about 3 days of no contact from the police, I rang up again and enquired. Apparently a note had appeared on their system relating to a tow done by Onehunga Towing Services (OTS) authorised by an officer from Henderson. This had occurred 1.5 hours of the trailer being left behind (when in fact we technically had 24 hours to do so and there was no danger to traffic by any means). I was informed that the officer only logged this event on the system about 2 days later and the operator apologised that no one had bothered calling us to advise of this.

    I called OTS and they assured me trailer was safe in their custody. I called "Grasshopperus" to advise him of the outcome and assured him delivery within a few days when my next truck was there. Prior to finding out that it hadnt been stolen, I had been in constant contact with Grasshopperus and even assured him that I would try my best to see if my insurance company would compensate over and above the $1500 carriers liability. The bike was handed over to Grasshopperus yesterday morning in the same exact condition in which it was received. [Hooray for all involved].

    This whole experience has been quite stressful to all parties involved, including myself. It costs over $20 K to replace a trailer of this nature and especially with the modifications done to it. I had spent a significant amount of time and resources in search activity for nearly 3 days for this trailer and had despatched 5 teams of people in the Auckland area to find the trailer - all because of shortcomings on the part of the police.

    [Deleted "However"] Alls well that ends well and I am glad that its over. [nothing wrong with four pages of posts about an incident, deleted] A few posters have gone to the length of posting out my home address and suggesting they "make noise" outside my property.

    I do note that Grasshoperus has posted some updates of the event - however, not as clearly as it perhaps could[should changed to could] have been.

    In this day and age when a company's repuation is pivotal and ever so easily tarnished, [I have signed up to these forums as I understand now how Kiwibiker could have an effect on reputation, and possibly be an excellent marketing tool, and am determined to give my side of the story].

    [(replacement paragraph for finalé) I hope that there will be some apologies coming my way from a couple of posters who I feel have taken it too far. I hope you understand I am very sorry for being a large part of this stressful situation, and will endeavour to prevent something similar happening in the future.]

    [DELETE entire paragraph, replaced above] I highly doubt that there would be any apologies coming my way from some of the posters - all I would like to emphasise is little knowledge can be a dangerous thing (just a point NEVER SUGGEST TO LIMITING THE KNOWLEDGE OF OTHER PEOPLE. THE PERSON WHO WOULD KEEP INFORMATION FROM YOU BELIEVES HIMSELF YOUR MASTER) and jumping to conclusions and making judgement calls (WHEN A BIKE IS STOLEN, SORRY HYPOTHESES NEED TO BE FORMED QUICKLY AND JUDGEMENT CALLS NEED TO BE MADE, IT'S A MOOT POINT WHETHER WHAT WAS REACHED WAS HYPOTHESES THAT WERE BEING TESTED OR CONCLUSIONS AS YOU STATE) without fully knowing the situation is a very sad reflection on anyone's character. (I'M AFRAID YOUR RESPONSE IS A REFLECTION OF YOUR CHARACTER).


    Regards,
    Shahil.
    (edits by Jason)
    p.s. If you need help in future BEFORE you release a public statement, feel free to give me a call on 021 031 7454. $30 an hour or some beers and pizza. As a business owner, never communicate in anger.

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    As a side note, Police call the towie to log a tow. It's up to the towie to then notify the Comms centre - 1; that they have towed it, 2; the rego of the vehicles towed and 3; the location it was towed to.

    If the feds don't have that info, they can hardly log it as towed can they?

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    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by vtec View Post
    Bugger it, I'm going to reword it for you, so in future you know how to handle yourself slightly more professionally.


    p.s. If you need help in future BEFORE you release a public statement, feel free to give me a call on 021 031 7454. $30 an hour or some beers and pizza. As a business owner, never communicate in anger.
    Nice!

    You get a bling for this, as did "transpro" for coming on here and facing up.

    I have always picked up my own bikes. And I currently have a doz or so in my shed... Will not change that. I have also at times offered to pick up and deliver others bikes while I travel around. Took a 650cc from Akl to Welly for a chap for $100. Door to door. (I was doing the travel anyhow, so helped with petrol costs). And many others.

    When I read this I wonder if there would be business here. Set up a low costs bike and bits pickup/delivery door 2 door where when enough bikes and bits was to be moved around it would happen? Spend a w/e travelling the island picking up and delivering?

    See what this causes; possible competition...

    May the bridges I burn light the way.

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    hi jason...thanks for the offer...trust me the last thing i wanna do on a sunny sunday afternoon is type out an essay in my defence but i was compelled to and so i did it..thanks grasshoperus for coming back to this so quickly...like you said, its nothing personal between us, I only got ticked off (as any reasonable person would) because personal information was being made public. Whilst I have nothing to hide, anyone with wife and kids would know and agree with my position.

    Grasshoperus, I look forward to catching up with you tomorrow on happier note - till then, I hope you're enjoying your new ride.

    Regards,
    Shahil

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    Argh just like the thrill of your first kiss the thrill of your first bikes stirs soo much passion..

    great to read all has ended well.
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    maybe the thread title could be changed to something more reflective of the actual situation

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    Quote Originally Posted by transpro View Post
    hi jason...thanks for the offer...trust me the last thing i wanna do on a sunny sunday afternoon is type out an essay in my defence but i was compelled to and so i did it..thanks grasshoperus for coming back to this so quickly...like you said, its nothing personal between us, I only got ticked off (as any reasonable person would) because personal information was being made public. Whilst I have nothing to hide, anyone with wife and kids would know and agree with my position.

    Grasshoperus, I look forward to catching up with you tomorrow on happier note - till then, I hope you're enjoying your new ride.

    Regards,
    Shahil
    I think its a good show that you came on here and actually posted there is always 2 sides to every story as well I agree too NO one should give out a persons home address details in this type of discussion or situation people do some stupid things when there angry and having a family would be a bit unnerving.


    And to grass gratz on getting your first bike man! I am glad you finally got it in the end after all the drama I am in the process atm of buying my first bike I could just imagine what it would be like going through this ordeal with your first bike.

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    Sorry to interrupt, but the story from Transpro sounded purely defensive.


    To Transpro:

    From a customer's perspective, the most vital thing is that the service is delivered as agreed, with clear communication. If the service cannot be delivered due to the unexpected, a clear explanation must be made as soon as possible, followed by the offering of a solution.

    Based on the story from both sides, the service was not delivered and the communication was extremely poor. Not only did Grasshoperus had to ring numerous times to reach someone for an explanation, your whole reply was nothing but a long fancy excuse. Remember, as a customer, we don’t care what tragedy has happened during the delivery or if the event has cost you 20k or 200k or even 2000k; this is YOUR JOB, and that is WHAT we pay you for. Sort it out.

    Here is my dealing with Transpro just a week ago, (getting my bike transported from Wellington to Auckland) and you can be the judge:

    26/10 Monday- Seller obtained quotes from Transpro. Waiting on the confirmation for the pick up and delivery date.
    29/10 Thursday- Transpro: “Collecting from seller either Friday evening or Saturday morning. -Hoping to pick up after 6pm Friday”
    30/10 Friday- Transpro did not turn up. Seller cannot reach anyone from Transpro and left a message. At 19:56 seller managed to reach someone from Transpro and was told that “the pick up van had some problem and cannot make it”. Transpro agreed to pick up the next day.
    31/10 Saturday- Did not turn up again, and no explanation given. Seller left voicemail for the owner of Transpro to say he needs to collect it or refund the money.
    02/11 Monday- Seller notified Transpro for cancellation of service with full refund. Transpro: “Will refund money back to seller’s account before end of the week”
    Seller and I agreed to go with another company, Biketranz. Seller contacted Biketranz for quote and delivery details.
    03/11 Tuesday- Delivery details confirmed from Biketranz. Biketranz agreed to pick up Thursday morning, and notified that the bike will reach Auckland coming Monday and delivered to destined address on Tuesday.
    05/11 Thursday-Biketranz picked up the bike as promised
    06/11 Friday- Refund from Transpro NOT obtained. Seller to chase up Monday.

    If I had gone to Biketranz as a first choice I would have got the bike a week earlier, saving a whole lot of worry and stress.

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    We use bike tranz to move our race bikes.Always on time,if problem always rings,Contacts receiver to verify delivery time by driver,You can not go wrong with them....The old saying is "you pay for what you get"..Pay fuck all ,get fuck all service......
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    I doubt that shahil is aware of every transaction hos business engages in, and thus does not know about the complaints that come in from time to time.
    this is not a defence of him. more a suggestion, that before he says 'we have had no complaints' he actually involves himself a little more in the details of his business. perhaps he could arrange for a few items to be "transported" without his staff knowing, as a secret shopper type thing, and actually gauge how well his business is REALLY being run. people who make fuckups and give customers the runaround are hardly going to let their boss know about it if they can help it...

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    A few other similar stories about Transpro on this website http://www.nocowboys.co.nz/businesse...ro-NZ/#ratings
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinje View Post
    A few other similar stories about Transpro on this website http://www.nocowboys.co.nz/businesse...ro-NZ/#ratings
    I have never used them, but there does seem to be a similar pattern emerging. Personally I've read enough to avoid them.
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    Angry I've also been screwed over by transpro!!!

    Hi mate...

    My names Paul..

    Transpro owe me over 400 dollars and i'm taking shahil to court via the disputes tribunal, he won't give my money back after cancelling my order.. it seems we're not the only ones to be conned. I've spoken to another shipping company who have told me of 2 clients being taken for a ride (they had to go to his house to get theirs back), basically as you know they take your money won't give it back and are absolute shit to try and get in touch with... How many times did you phone and get his wife answering promising shahil will call back??

    I will let you know how i get on in court if you decide to go down that avenue..

    paularcher30@hotmail.co.uk \

    P.s If your reading this shahil... see you in court..

    P.P.s please do not use this company, you are simply throwing money away..
    Last edited by archer3000; 20th November 2009 at 13:14. Reason: swearing

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    As of today I happen to be working for a company that transports bikes as well as cars. I'm not on any of the units that take bikes as well, but I'll keep an eye on the standard of service and recommend it as soon as I know, that everything is kosher.
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    Transpro - Shahil

    Hey mate,

    Transpro SUXS - im looking at taking them to fairgo, small claims and debt collection. Are you able to give me your story in an email, im just making a collection of complaints about Transpro there are so many? I have been emailing and phone calls and no response. I have been contacting him for three months for my refund and nothing has happened.
    As soon as i told him i was going to Debt collection i got an email straight away but of course it was all my fault not Transpro.

    I look forward to hearing from you guys,
    Lana
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopperus View Post
    Hi everyone,
    I'm an aspiring motorbike rider who's had his very first bike stolen before I even received it.... Please read this long (sorry) post and help me, I'm really bent over a barrel here.

    Bought a 1990 ZXR250 off a KB member who was selling. He's in WLG and I'm in AKL so we use a shipping company, transpro.co.nz

    It's dropped off to them on October 19th and I called them every 2 days from that date to get an ETA and every single time I call I get a different date. This drags on for a while until October 30th when they say it's finally left the WLG depot and will be delivered on the 31st. Their service had been shit up until this point but I was relieved to hear that it actually left the depot and was moving towards me.

    So it's due on Saturday (yesterday) but then I get a call from transpro saying "Oh, the entire trailer that had your bike in it has been stolen. The driver of the truck got a flat tyre, left the truck and trailer on the side of the road in East Tamaki (industrial area in East Auckland) and when he got back after fixing a tyre 4 hours later the trailer was gone".... WTF man!!!

    He said he was going in to see the cops at 3pm but when I couldn't get a hold of transpro that arvo I called the cops to report a stolen vehicle and when I mentioned the transporter trailer they said nothing of that description had been lodged and that as my vehicle from stolen from within another stolen vehicle I couldn't report it stolen until transpro give me the police case number to link it all together.

    As transpro don't appear to have reported a theft to the police I think foul play is afoot. I reckon they may have taken it for a joyride, crashed it, and have been buying time while cooking up this elaborate hoax. They may be telling the truth but as they've become extremely difficult to contact I'm assuming the worst.

    * the transport company says they only cover up to $1500 on their insurance but I will definitely take them to small claims if need be. Bike cost me $3300 and I want it all back.
    * I'm definitely going to involve Fair Go.
    * I guess technically I could be a dick to the old owner and say that he still hasn't delivered the goods that I paid for but he's not the one at fault here. In fact he's been awesome.

    Yours in total desperation.
    Grasshopperus (Al)
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