The bigger picture.

[Swoop]

Nearly 40 years down the track and how many still don't/won't do up their seatbelt?

Could this be passive eugenics in action?
I am calling for a scene Holocaust. the complete eradication of juvenile stupidity. the way Darwin would want it. the way Mother Nature would want it. George Carlin said it the best "entirely too many lives are being saved by airbags and batting helmets... think of it as passive eugenics."

Or is it passive suicide?
An act of intentionally killing oneself without active effort.

[MSTRS:Me]

I reckon that it's proof that behaviours and attitudes take a very long time to modify.
And in that respect, bikers are no better or worse than other roadusers.

[peasea]

I reckon that it's proof that behaviours and attitudes take a very long time to modify.
And in that respect, bikers are no better or worse than other roadusers.

Correct. How long did it take for drunk driving to become socially unacceptable? It used to be something of a 'right of passage' to get trollied and 'run the gauntlet' to get home (sometimes at high speed) and boast about it the next night in the pub. Then, mad as it might be, the perp then became the chosen driver coz he/she can 'do it'.

They were nutty times. Glad it's (mostly) a thing of the past but you'll never get complete compliance, just like speeding. I still exceed the speed limit regularly but I do it sober so in MY view I'm the safer rider than the pissed bugger at 50kph.

[jeffs]

Unfortunately, neither have us motorcyclists.

One day you will come off on a gravel corner covered in stones you had thrown first.

[caseye]

One day you will come off on a gravel corner covered in stones you had thrown first.

Not so sure your'e right there, but I liked the analogy.

[Katman]

One day you will come off on a gravel corner covered in stones you had thrown first.

Wow, that's deep.

You're forgetting about my super powers though.

[jeffs]

wow, that's deep.

You're forgetting about my super powers though.

..........

[Ronin]

I agree - it shouldn't.

However, the general public and the powers that be (i.e. those who can make our lives a misery) don't see it quite the same way.

ok, this has been pissing me off since I read it......

It's just not right that we agree on something.



I feel dirty

[jeffs]

For what its worth Katman, I'm pissed off with the ACC because I don't own a Super cape like you, so I try not to ride like an ass, even if my wife has my life well insured.

As some one on this thread once said "Don't be fooled - the meek aren't going to inherit the earth."

But come the day of reckoning the sanctimonious will have to pay up like the rest of us.

[Katman]

But come the day of reckoning the sanctimonious will have to pay up like the rest of us.

Hey, I've been called worse.

[jeffs]

Hey, I've been called worse.

Good night Katman

[jeffs]

Well it was going to be goodnight, but my last post turned me into a "Fair weather rider". I really do resent that, I commute in all weathers, that's why I bought a bike.

[oldrider]

I agree with Katman. Let's all resolve to ride perfectly from this point forward. It's such a blindingly simple proposition that I'm surprised that somebody didn't think of it years ago.

Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya. Someone's crying lord, Kumbaya...

Reality is, that even if motorcyclists did achieve "Katman utopia" and ride 100% accordingly, it would make not one iota of difference to the ACC situation!

The ACC question is about political idealism and has nothing to do with motorcycles or safety!

Katman.....Confucius said, "if you open a window, you are bound to let in a few flies".

There will always be a few who stand apart from the ideals of the mob and this will never change! (thankfully, IMHO)

I believe motorcycling is as highly accepted and/or respected today as it has ever been in my lifetime!

Perhaps if you concentrated on the positives instead of focussing obsessively on the negatives, you might be able to see more "good" motorcyclist examples than you apparently do now!

Take a little time out, play Kenny Rogers singing "the gambler", listen to the words and give the real Katman a chance to re-emerge from the ashes of this doomed crusade!

In saying this I do respect your integrity and the effort you have made but I think you are probably doing more damage than good now. IMHO.

[gwigs]

After reading all eleven pages of this post I have now lost the will to live.

Give it a rest Katman.

[Katman]

Perhaps if you concentrated on the positives instead of focussing obsessively on the negatives, you might be able to see more "good" motorcyclist examples than you apparently do now!

If we continue to ignore the negative aspects that many riders bring to Motorcycling they will continue to drag us further down.

I have too high a regard for Motorcycling to feebly sit back and let that happen.