What happened to global warming?

[Winston001]

If skeptics could understand greenhouse gases as pollution with consequences - we'd get a lot further in these discussions.

[Naki Rat]

This seems to explain the polititians' approach to the ETS pretty well

[Pixie]

Exactly! everytime you turn on the TV some kind of fool is parading his/her Green Innovation to save the world, what a bunch of morons.

Making kites out of plastic bags is going to save the earth... how? carbon credits will stop global warming.... ok, or it may rape our already shitty economy?

What's with the fuckin' drums?
Fuckin' hippies!

[Pixie]

is that a real word

Extincting: When species go extinct,they die.
Ever smelt a dead body?

[spacemonkey]

This seems to explain the polititians' approach to the ETS pretty well

Ahahahahahahahaha!!!
Nice one.

The Aussies can keep Russel Crowe but can we have John Clarke back?

[avgas]

If skeptics could understand greenhouse gases as pollution with consequences - we'd get a lot further in these discussions.

Very good point. As someone who is allowed to not be a loony on either side of the fence, I have a simple thing that sums up everything.

Poison = bad

Global Warming = We haven't been here long enough to know

Common Sense > Science > Trending > Marketing > Religion

I find it hilarious that scientists (on both sides) jump up and down over the concept of climate change.....yet no one peeps about the MILLIONS who die every year due to environmental stuff which is preventable.

[Pixie]

Unfortunately that probably is where the AGW money is going and that's why it dissapears so quickly... R&D is a fucking expensive business... but we do actually already have the technology to deal with "Climate Change"... it's called fire and cardigans for when it's cold and togs for when it's sunny... anything in between and it wearers choice!

We had it in the ice age or we would not be here.

[peasea]

Very good point. As someone who is allowed to not be a loony on either side of the fence, I have a simple thing that sums up everything.

Poison = bad

Global Warming = We haven't been here long enough to know

Common Sense > Science > Trending > Marketing > Religion

I find it hilarious that scientists (on both sides) jump up and down over the concept of climate change.....yet no one peeps about the MILLIONS who die every year due to environmental stuff which is preventable.

Like motorcycle accidents?

Ooops.

PS: You forgot to mention media beat-ups, politican scaremongering and the IMF.

[Winston001]

Very good point. As someone who is allowed to not be a loony on either side of the fence, I have a simple thing that sums up everything.

Poison = bad

Global Warming = We haven't been here long enough to know

Common Sense > Science > Trending > Marketing > Religion

I find it hilarious that scientists (on both sides) jump up and down over the concept of climate change.....yet no one peeps about the MILLIONS who die every year due to environmental stuff which is preventable.

The climate change noise has drowned out the basic intent of the international treaties like Kyoto. It's to stop pollution. Somehow this got sidetracked into arguments about whether the climate is changing, and if we can make any difference. Pollution got forgotten.

[Skyryder]

The climate change noise has drowned out the basic intent of the international treaties like Kyoto. It's to stop pollution. Somehow this got sidetracked into arguments about whether the climate is changing, and if we can make any difference. Pollution got forgotten.

Yep I got past as to the cause. It's the skeptics who push this one. The world needs to wake up to the consequences. And some accuse me of having blinkers on. Just wait until the famines start. The monsoon is getting a bit unreliable.


Skyryder

[LBD]

It's Fooking Freezing where I am !

Is fookin colder here...went to the golf course last week...after loosing 25 balls on the first hole, give or take,....I have up. Some lucky kid will have a wind fall when the snow melts.

[mashman]

Yep I got past as to the cause. It's the skeptics who push this one. The world needs to wake up to the consequences. And some accuse me of having blinkers on. Just wait until the famines start. The monsoon is getting a bit unreliable.


Skyryder

waddayamean WHEN the famines start??? I might have seen a few well publicised ones over the last 20 years or so... but who gives a shit, there's no money to be made from a lifeless land...

[Skyryder]

waddayamean WHEN the famines start??? I might have seen a few well publicised ones over the last 20 years or so... but who gives a shit, there's no money to be made from a lifeless land...

The ones in the last twenty years were localised and are nothing in comparison to what the global famines will be like. The bulk of the worlds population requires the monsoons to be able to provide water for rice production. While there have been inroads in irrigation precipitation is by far the most common source. Delays in the monsoon reduce growing time and this result in loss of volume.

An additional concern is wheat production. The United States is the world's leading wheat exporter. In most years, the United States, Canada, Australia, the EU-27, the former Soviet Union (including three major wheat exporters: Russia, Ukraine, and Kazakhstan), and Argentina account for about 90 percent of world wheat exports. Global warming will have an adverse effect on wheat production and reduce exports of surplus wheat.

Factor in drought and the shit realy hits the fan

If you think that this is pie in the sky stuff just do google on the American Dustbowl and imagine this on a global scale.

Famines affecting a billion people will threaten global food security during the 21st century, according to a leading US scientist.

Nina Fedoroff, the US State Department chief scientist, is convinced that food shortages will be the biggest challenge facing the world as temperatures and population levels rise. Food security in the coming years, she said, is “a huge problem” that has been met with little more than complacency. “We are asleep at the switch,” she said.

Her warning echoes comments by John Beddington, Britain’s chief scientist, last week in which he forecast a “perfect storm” of food, water and energy shortages by 2030.

From

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5962238.ece

Skyryder

[spacemonkey]

waddayamean WHEN the famines start??? I might have seen a few well publicised ones over the last 20 years or so... but who gives a shit, there's no money to be made from a lifeless land...

You missed the important word "Monsoon" he was referring to India/Asia if the monsoon season has low rainfall there will be a massive shortfall in rice production which is a mainstay of the diet in those areas.
Famine is great for breaking down social cohesion, cue discord violence and possible wars (civil or multinational)..... Total worst case senario of course.

[Winston001]

waddayamean WHEN the famines start??? I might have seen a few well publicised ones over the last 20 years or so... but who gives a shit, there's no money to be made from a lifeless land...

I do. The idea that adults and children slowly die by the tens of thousands in heat and dust appals me.

As for money - billions are spent by Western countries on famine relief. There is plenty of money from the wealthy nations - but it never catches up.

There are myriad reasons - inefficiencies, bureaucracy, theft, corruption but the main reason is burgeoning populations in the poor countries.

For example - Ethiopia suffered a well-publicised famine in the early 1980s with ship-loads of grain etc being sent in response. The population was 40 million.

Ethiopia is once again in the grip of a terrible famine only this time the population is 80 million. That is no-ones fault - but the human consequences are tragic.