Karma perhaps?

[Big Dog]

Fuck the family, they should have put more effort into raising a worthwhile member of society instead of a piece of shit who steals other peoples hard earned possessions. Let them chew on that a while. If this was always the penalty for stealing bikes, I know I'd be happier about parking it in town whilst doing my Christmas shopping.

Before the invention of the internal combustion engine stealing a mans ride was a capital offence.

If you were lucky it was the law that strung you up.

Are we now more humane or and just.
Or just soft from surrounding ourselves with all our time saving devices we worked so long an hard to aquire(sp?)?

[Juzz976]

Hey its $92,000 a year us tax payers wont have to cough up for his prison upkeep.

Natural Selection at work here me thinks

[Horse]

Found pic (and 10 whatever)

I'm fairly sure that technically speaking, that's a video still frame. And an extremely well-shot one in my opinion.

[Big Dog]

you are a hard hearted lot....
he made a bad choice and so did she,but deserved to die....I think not.
That is the sort of thinking that leads to wars,genocide and the like isnt it?

Not really. This is the sort of thinking that is an instant gut reaction to what we percieve as a series of violations of our own moral codes as difined by the people we have been surrounded by since birth, the education by our parents and other elders and the moral sentiment of the people whose presence we are currently in.

Historically as people have had more freedom to express this kind of dissatisfaction there has been less violence that is reported with greater enthusiasm.

In countries where people are not free to feel this way and express that their governmnents tend to cover up mass murders, encourage the use of torture in police interviews and other such atrocities in the comfort of the knowlege that they will not be themselves judged.

In countries where freedom of speech is promoted no one ever does anyting of significance for fear the people will lash out.

The one noteable exception is America with its long line of democraticaly elected dictators. The big difference being that there is one person with the final say over the actions of an entire country and its armies.

But I digress.

No we are not heatless, veinal creatures celebrating the morbid and horrible end of a miscreant. We are human beings that need to feel a real reaction to the injustice that sees criminals having the same rights and protections as hones citizens.

[imdying]

Before the invention of the internal combustion engine stealing a mans ride was a capital offence.

If you were lucky it was the law that strung you up.

Are we now more humane or and just.
Or just soft from surrounding ourselves with all our time saving devices we worked so long an hard to aquire(sp?)?

I'd be all for being 'more humane', if it worked.

[Mikkel]

I'd be all for being 'more humane', if it worked.

There's nothing inhumane about hanging, when done properly.

It's quiet, quick and efficient. Hell, it's even sustainable - you can reuse the rope. Seen the movie Pierrepoint?

[imdying]

There's nothing inhumane about hanging, when done properly.

It's quiet, quick and efficient. Hell, it's even sustainable - you can reuse the rope. Seen the movie Pierrepoint?

Actually, I have a documentary on the 'best' execution if you're interested. Hanging isn't too good, doesn't always work, but not too bad all in all. Hypoxia via inhaling nitrogen is the win if you want 'humane'.

[Mikkel]

Actually, I have a documentary on the 'best' execution if you're interested. Hanging isn't too good, doesn't always work, but not too bad all in all. Hypoxia via inhaling nitrogen is the win if you want 'humane'.

Nitrogen? You don't mean nitrous oxide? Nitrogen doesn't bind to haemoglobin, nitrous oxide, and carbon monoxide too, binds more readily than oxygen.

Freezing to death should apparently be quite pleasant. You'll start feeling warm and then sleepy...

[Big Dog]

Actually, I have a documentary on the 'best' execution if you're interested. Hanging isn't too good, doesn't always work, but not too bad all in all. Hypoxia via inhaling nitrogen is the win if you want 'humane'.

Correct but hanging was also a good visual deterrent.

Sure there was still a lot of wild men who didn't care, But how many people are currnently housed in supermax around the world now because we don't have deterrent punnishments?

[imdying]

Nitrogen? You don't mean nitrous oxide? Nitrogen doesn't bind to haemoglobin, nitrous oxide, and carbon monoxide too, binds more readily than oxygen.

Yeah, pretty sure it was nitrogen... there's a 90kg bottle in the van... I can get you a copy if you like.

Correct but hanging was also a good visual deterrent.

Indeed. One of the things mentioned in the film was that what one person considers to be an ideal execution method (i.e. painless) was not was another considers ideal. The electrocution method is pretty nasty, it gets my vote for kiddy fiddlers and bike thieves

[86GSXR]

Hmmmm, that's the second fatal accident within 1000m from my place. Just read the kid stole the bike from Wellington and had been at a party shortly beforehand so possibly under the influence. I feel sorry for them both (and for the bike owner) but, dumb is dumb.

[Tank]

I know that this is a bike forum - and as such its cool to say bad things when something like this happens.

But - at the end of the day - a bike is just a thing, a toy, something to get from a to b. Most people have insurance - and even if they dont - its just money and it can be replaced.

The idiot is a Darwin winner for sure - but people should not get any form of ghoolish pleasure from his dealth just bacause it was a stolen bike he was on.

I have little to no sympathy for the idiot - but I'm happy to say I get no joy from his passing.

[scumdog]

you are a hard hearted lot....
he made a bad choice and so did she,but deserved to die....I think not.
That is the sort of thinking that leads to wars,genocide and the like isnt it?

Maybe he didn't DESERVE to die - but he died anyway.

And a lot of us have little sympathy for him.

For his family yes, but not him.

[Big Dog]

Maybe he didn't DESERVE to die - but he died anyway.

And a lot of us have little sympathy for him.

For his family yes, but not him.

It's not like I have no sympathy for him. I just feel that he has chosen his path and now he has the result of that choice.

A bit like ordering at a restaurant. You make your choice and you eat what arrives.
You can't send it back becasue you don't like it.

He who had his bike stolen should get his money back because that is not what he ordered.

I would not call it just deserts, just the path he chose.
Just deserts would be if he had his day in court and actually had to pay for his crimes instead of dying a horrid death and leaving a maimed survivor behind.

I feel sadness that the unnamed girl will never get her life back. Even if she lives her life will not be the same.
I feel sadness that he has not had to pay for his crime.
I feel sadness that another of our youth has died without becoming all he could have been.
I feel sadness that he made a series of bad decisions.
I feel sadness that they will count in ACC stats.
I feel sadness that we have still not evolved as a species.

I feel no sadness that someone has died in the commision of a crime, as a result of his own actions and by his own hand.
Every man, woman or child who "does a runner" knows they may die or kill someone in their attempt to flee and has whieghted the risk against the reward and gone for it.

I feel a rage that while he chose to run, and died in the commision of a crime, as a result of his own actions and by his own hand the female probably had no such choice from the moment he hit the go switch. Her only fault lays in a poor choice driver and failing to wear basic safety gear.

[Cheshire Cat]

I think I'm on Genies ignor list LOL