I'm quitting work to go on a sickness benefit

[scissorhands]

I'm sure this family are by no means the only ones doing this. It will be the tip of the iceburg and as a nation we will be horrified by how much abuse of the system goes on.

There are some folk out there who claim lack of training, education (the education system is against them...), and a "fair start in life" all are perfectly legitimate justifications for ripping the honest hardworking tax payer off. Let's face it - they're not ripping off the "system"; the "system" is US, the tax payer. If not for us, the govt. wouldn't have any funding for these leeches; it's just sad for us we have no say in the matter.

There are also scumbags at the top doing the same but for more(Bill English's 2nd house). Joe public lets it happen. By standing by and not protesting(sheep), this will all continue. Some of societies fringe culture people, understand that its a rort, and has been for many years so have given up on contributing to the emperor with no clothes. The working man is not only a sucker, but like a wifey who lies to the boss for her alcoholic hubby, many kiwis encourage poor behavior in others by being too nice.

I believe that the likes of these bludgers use intimidation and property damage to anyone who stands up to them.

[PrincessBandit]

Interesting to read this this morning too, from the article in stuff:


..."Time-limited benefits were proposed by former National Party leader Don Brash, but the party dropped the idea before last year's election as too controversial.

Ms Bennett said the idea needed to be reconsidered in the light of new figures revealing the number of long-term beneficiaries.

Prime Minister John Key said he was concerned about the benefit revelations. Though most recipients needed their benefits and did not abuse the system, the Government would crack down on those who abused it, he said.

Other changes under consideration by the Government are understood to include work-testing for domestic purpose beneficiaries whose youngest child has turned six, compulsory budgeting advice for beneficiaries who claim frequent grants, and part-time work obligations for some sickness and invalid beneficiaries.

Information made public yesterday under the Official Information Act shows 6654 people have been on unemployment benefit for more than a year as of September, and 816 on the dole for more than five years.

Harris is on a sickness benefit because he has a medical opinion saying he has cannabis addiction. He must get reassessed by a doctor every 13 weeks, but Work and Income said yesterday that it could not force him to undertake drug or alcohol rehabilitation under existing laws."...

No, he couldn't possibly be forced to undertake rehab, as that could take away his right to continue bludging.

[Marmoot]

Simple answer: public trial.

In a corporate situation, investors have the right to examine how the directors and management spend their dollars. They would be called into a meeting where the investors grill them with questions. When the answers are not satisfactory, they get fired, and perhaps taken to court if there is a gross negligence.

So, what if a group of taxpayers band together and knock on these beneficiaries' door (perhaps with some pitchforks) and demand answers?

[Tank]

The follow up story to this is that a mother with cancer had a grant refused for clothing her child now has it granted after going to the Press.

Paula Bennet needs to find out what is going on here in Chch instead of the one liners she's drip feeding the public for her 'benefit.'


Skyryder

probaly another person dug up by labour - like thay have done so many times this year. They normally end up back firing.

Up upshot is Bennet dosnt know EVERY case in NZ - shes starting with the dogs ball obvious piss takes that are costing the country 100's of thosands of dollars.

Shes doing a good job - good on her.

[Tank]

The follow up story to this is that a mother with cancer had a grant refused for clothing her child now has it granted after going to the Press.

Paula Bennet needs to find out what is going on here in Chch instead of the one liners she's drip feeding the public for her 'benefit.'


Skyryder

Found the article - fuck some of you love putting a slant on things:

Play the bleeding heart about the cancer - but she didnt have it when it was declined:

"Bonnie Avery, 20, was refused a $119 Work and Income special-needs grant to buy clothes for baby Cordae in June. She has since been diagnosed with a malignant tumour and requires chemotherapy every third week at Christchurch Hospital."

And why was she declined?

"She said the baby-clothes grant was originally declined because she was still repaying a $920 grant for a fridge and a washing machine."

[avgas]

I still think they should go back to meal ticket system

They also should INVEST in a benefit fraud hotline......I have found myself in many situations where I have attempted to become an anon nark.....only to find that it is almost impossible.

I know of 1 family in auckland. House is worth $900K (they paid cash) - they also have 4 rental homes, currently getting overseas retirement pay, and NZ unemployment benefit, and working a cash job. Probably pulling back about 400K a year mabey more.
WINZ sends their statement advice to their house.....every house in this street has a CV of over 800K.

[Murray]

The follow up story to this is that a mother with cancer had a grant refused for clothing her child now has it granted after going to the Press.

Paula Bennet needs to find out what is going on here in Chch instead of the one liners she's drip feeding the public for her 'benefit.'


Skyryder

Found the article - fuck some of you love putting a slant on things:

Play the bleeding heart about the cancer - but she didnt have it when it was declined:

"Bonnie Avery, 20, was refused a $119 Work and Income special-needs grant to buy clothes for baby Cordae in June. She has since been diagnosed with a malignant tumour and requires chemotherapy every third week at Christchurch Hospital."

And why was she declined?

"She said the baby-clothes grant was originally declined because she was still repaying a $920 grant for a fridge and a washing machine."

Good Call Tank - whose "drip feeding" the public now Mr Skyryder!!!

[avgas]

Simple answer: public trial.

In a corporate situation, investors have the right to examine how the directors and management spend their dollars. They would be called into a meeting where the investors grill them with questions. When the answers are not satisfactory, they get fired, and perhaps taken to court if there is a gross negligence.

So, what if a group of taxpayers band together and knock on these beneficiaries' door (perhaps with some pitchforks) and demand answers?

I'm keen for that - do they do an annual release of Financial statements?

[Grasshopperus]

Addicted to cannabis LOL!

You can pay a doctor to prescribe or diagnose anything.

I'm addicted to hookers, fast food, double-parking, caviar and murderizing... gimme gimme gimme!

[avgas]

I'm with you guys. Benefits should be there to help those in need, not a way of life!!!!

Sad fact of the matter is no one needs it.
I have been fortunate enough to help families who are not claiming. They are the true heroes of society.
It was those experiences that told me that you will never get the right people on a benefit - so therefore the benefit should not exist any-more.

[avgas]

Addicted to cannabis LOL!

You can pay a doctor to prescribe or diagnose anything.

I'm addicted to hookers, fast food, double-parking, caviar and murderizing... gimme gimme gimme!

Its my medical opinion that you have too much time. Deduct accordingly

[peasea]

probaly another person dug up by labour - like thay have done so many times this year. They normally end up back firing.

Up upshot is Bennet dosnt know EVERY case in NZ - shes starting with the dogs ball obvious piss takes that are costing the country 100's of thosands of dollars.

Shes doing a good job - good on her.

Yup, she had to start somewhere.

[scissorhands]

Personally, I have nothing against work, particularly when performed, quietly and unobtrusively, by someone else. I just don't happen to think it's an appropriate subject for an "ethic."

Work while you have the light. You are responsible for the talent that has been entrusted to you.

The heights by great men reached and kept / Were not attained by sudden flight, / But they, while their companions slept, / Were toiling upward in the night.

The reward for work well done is the opportunity to do more.

If hard work were such a wonderful thing, surely the rich would have kept it all to themselves.

What work I have done I have done because it has been play. If it had been work I shouldn't have done it. Who was it who said, "Blessed is the man who has found his work"? Whoever it was he had the right idea in his mind. Mark you, he says his work--not somebody else's work. The work that is really a man's own work is play and not work at all. Cursed is the man who has found some other man's work and cannot lose it. When we talk about the great workers of the world we really mean the great players of the world. The fellows who groan and sweat under the weary load of toil that they bear never can hope to do anything great. How can they when their souls are in a ferment of revolt against the employment of their hands and brains? The product of slavery, intellectual or physical, can never be great.

The Roots of Violence:
Wealth without work,
Pleasure without conscience,
Knowledge without character,
Commerce without morality,
Science without humanity,
Worship without sacrifice,
Politics without principles.

[Kickaha]

One of the things that article bought out was that a young guy (20ish)at work saw nothing wrong with what that parasite was doing and said if he could get away with it he would, he also didn't seem to believe that I wouldn't do the same if I had the chance

[Skyryder]

Found the article - fuck some of you love putting a slant on things:

Play the bleeding heart about the cancer - but she didnt have it when it was declined:

"Bonnie Avery, 20, was refused a $119 Work and Income special-needs grant to buy clothes for baby Cordae in June. She has since been diagnosed with a malignant tumour and requires chemotherapy every third week at Christchurch Hospital."

And why was she declined?

"She said the baby-clothes grant was originally declined because she was still repaying a $920 grant for a fridge and a washing machine."

And she goes public and get's it. No slant on my post. Ya just need to fucken read in the normal position like everybody else does.


Skyryder