Spelling and grammer

[marigami]

Well in my honest and rather naive foreigner point of view (i really deserve compliments for this!!) I can say that I don't always understand all your posts and the way you write.
IMO it seems some of you write as they speak,I mean with your NZ accent.
Remember,I am french and english is definitly not my mother tongue.
And I am sure that some of my posts were not very clear with bad vocabulary and grammar.
But it is also true that internet, like texting some words on mobiles or others,allows lots of shortcuts and others which can make messages very difficult to catch unless very clever () or used to.
Which i'm not (clever or used to ).
But i also see some of your posts as i very good way for me to learn "new zealander" language as I do whish to come over and settle so you're helping me to learn quicker and be ready to deal with the "natives" )

[Winston001]

Ok just read some posts on here, and I have to say I am tired of people commenting on the lack of spelling and grammar some people have on this site.

Not everyone is literate

Its just polite not to pick on people.

Tis xmas you know... be kind!

Kimmy - look at moi look at moi - now apologise to Sharon/Hitcher and the rest of us in the BDOTGNZA. Someone has to uphold the standards in this family.

I think you need to differentiate between the illiterate and the lazy. There are a few people who really struggle, but a lot more who simply choose the lazy way to write. No capitals or punctuation, no sentence or paragraph construction, txt spk nd l33t.

The irritation expressed on this site reflects society's aversion to such self-indulgent laziness, which was even encouraged (albeit briefly) by our "education system".

Exactly. Spot on.

Rocketgal your sentiments are born of kindness and sympathy towards people who are dyslexic or simply struggle with written English. You have my respect.

However my view is many people who write unintelligible posts do so because they genuinely think it is acceptable. For some arcane reason we have a generation who think the normal rules of written communication do not apply on the internet. Go figure.

I don't accept the lack of education plea having watched my own daughter who received an English prize, lapse into grammatical drivel online. She knows better but doesn't care. Where did I go wrong......???? (Laughs Out Loud)

Posters who jump into any internet forums which I frequent world-wide, are given short shrift if they cannot be read and understood. Goodness knows with spell-checkers it isn't hard to get a message across.

Indeed some of the people who do not have English as their first language are remarkably correct.

[Winston001]

There are two spelling exceptions which are embraced by all - gargre and sprotsbike. These are iconic.

[JATZ]

There are two spelling exceptions which are embraced by all - gargre and sprotsbike. These are iconic.

Yebut, what about "prolly" m8

[Dean]

You missed the point - I was complementing you and giving credit for the effort you have obviously made to improve the grammar in your post.

Perhaps you are gun shy from some of my other post about you - but I was being genuine and honest in the praise about how you have improved (not that I think praise from me means anything - but hey take it when its offered).

I understand now and will tell you this because I dont think I had told you this in the past.

When I first joined Kiwi Biker I had no clue with English at school, the grades were failing far from other learners. Wbks can recall when I didn't even know basic Grammar (mostly because there were some pitfalls in earlier life).

Through help from Hitcher, Wbks, you and at general reading people's posts I had got better and more I think the word is 'eloquent'. I had some of the best scores in my class, Excellence in extended written text and Merit in visual oral text! Who would of thought Kiwi Biker could have such a profound impact. So I thankyou all.

I am definitely grateful I think for the most part my 'creative writing' far excels other learners because *snicker* I'm known to tell tales on here but good ones. And yes I actually got Excellence in Drama too, the teacher told me I have a natural talent with devising Drama, Comedy and Improvisation so now the kettle can finally call the pot black! Maybe Kiwi Biker taught me some of that too, really I think the teacher was saying im a successful troll on stage and off.

So a big hug to you all, despite our differences, shortcomings, Ignores I will share this one moment in peace.

[davebullet]

Don't you want to learn? I mean if you are riding a bike like crap and a more experienced rider says "here's a better way", you say "fuck off, don't pick on me?"

Language is something to be preserved. I'm always after improving myself... If someone picks on my spelling or grammar, then I've learned something. Don't be insecure and get over it. Learn or repeat your mistakes at your peril.... mwahahahahahaha!

[Tink]

While I understand Rocketgal68's point,!

Thankyou, I did not know it was there.

It is YOU'RE!

That I am afraid is my typing, not my brain, I know it is you are (you're)...

Kimmy
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I am sorry Winny but I do not apologise to anyone regarding this thread, I enjoyed the banter, and I still in my heart believe, it is how you educate (or correct someone in this case)... some of these posters can be quite in ones face, and some are actually nice about it. THAT IS ONLY MY POINT.

[Tink]

Don't you want to learn? I mean if you are riding a bike like crap and a more experienced rider says "here's a better way", you say "fuck off, don't pick on me?"

Language is something to be preserved. I'm always after improving myself... If someone picks on my spelling or grammar, then I've learned something. Don't be insecure and get over it. Learn or repeat your mistakes at your peril.... mwahahahahahaha!

Ok I get your point, but I don't think some understand mine, see above! If someone was rude to me about my riding, I would look else where for a teacher. Simple.

[scumdog]

Ok I get your point, but I don't think some understand mine, see above! If someone was rude to me about my riding, I would look else where for a teacher. Simple.

Even if they were correct in their judgement of your riding?

[Tink]

Even if they were correct in their judgement of your riding?

Yes, because I think rudeness is uncalled for... simple.

[The Everlasting]

Ok I get your point, but I don't think some understand mine, see above! If someone was rude to me about my riding, I would look else where for a teacher. Simple.

but they don't need to be rude to tell you your doing something wrong,it can be said nicely.

[Tink]

but they don't need to be rude to tell you your doing something wrong,it can be said nicely.

As it can be explained nicely that ones spelling & grammer is not the best, it's how one expresses oneself, example: manners, this I think also has gone down the toilet in society, if some think they are setting a example of good grammer & spelling then they need to look at how they are doing it.

[The Everlasting]

As it can be explained nicely that ones spelling & grammer is not the best, it's how one expresses oneself, example: manners, this I think also has gone down the toilet in society, if some think they are setting a example of good grammer & spelling then they need to look at how they are doing it.

Yeah indeed,people need to be nice and use their manners when correcting someone,be it spelling or riding or whatever.

[Dave Lobster]

Even if they were correct in their judgement of your riding?

Have you EVER had positive feedback when critiquing a woman??

[scumdog]

Have you EVER had positive feedback when critiquing a woman??

Well normajeane is still with me.....does that count?