Fucken Greenies

[puddytat]

The Greens are now ostensibly fucked as a political force. With the departure of Rod Donald and now Jeanette Fitzsimons they are now devoid of political nous and the ability to effectively play the Wellington game. .

They'll still get way more votes than either Act,or Peter Dunns outfit....

[shrub]

They'll still get way more votes than either Act,or Peter Dunns outfit....

And their policies will still make more sense than any of the other minor parties, they will still avoid playing silly games, will still stick to their core ideology, will continue to avoid getting pinged for corruption and ripping off the taxpayers etc and will still be hated more than any other party. Why? I think because they challenge the great unwashed too much.

[shrub]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...-Partys-new-MP


I just like the title "Who's this clown"

I say give him a go see what he comes up with. He might not be the munter you all think. And its not like he is going to be anywhere near influencing any policy is he?

I agree, it seems that he has values and principles, and is willing to stick his neck out for what he believes - is that a bad thing in a politician? Or would the great unwashedrather have someone like Donna Awatere-Huata? Or maybe Bob Clarkson?

[mashman]

Do you think National were voted in because of confidence in their candidates and their policies, or because people were sick of Labour ?

NZ generally votes Govt's out, not in.

To be honest, i've never really thought of it that way. But from conversations with friends and work mates, this seems to have been a don't vote for the other guy vote, the rest must be much better... i've seen it happen elsewhere before... damned if you do, damned whatever you do!

[howdamnhard]

Yes boys and girls - your hard earned dollars is now paying minimum wage charlie 100k+ for being a MP.

Wow , he is living the American dream. Hang on this is NZ.
Where do I sign up.

[Mikkel]

Do you think National were voted in because of confidence in their candidates and their policies, or because people were sick of Labour ?

NZ generally votes Govt's out, not in.

I suppose that could, to some extent, explain the current state of affairs.

[bikemike]

I agree, it seems that he has values and principles, and is willing to stick his neck out for what he believes - is that a bad thing in a politician? Or would the great unwashedrather have someone like Donna Awatere-Huata? Or maybe Bob Clarkson?

This is true.
It is also 'true' that with Jeanette Fitzsimons and Rod Donald away, the Greens have more work to do to regain the level of mana they had, for those that gave them quiet respect, and even perhaps a quiet vote on the side. Ardent supporters won't be affected, but outsiders might take more convincing now and that is a risk the Greens will surely aware of.

[Ronin]

I suppose that could, to some extent, explain the current state of affairs.

Not to mention the previous states of affairs.

[scissorhands]

I vote Green. Not because I think they can run a country in this fucked up corporate world, they cant.

However, sustainability rather than acting like a drunken sailor spending accumulated wages seems a more edifying way to live

[ynot slow]

I notice that someone has had to get a haircut and a real fucking job!

Funny thing why don't our MP's drug tested?Most other occupations have legislation forced on them so they can do random testing,so why not our MPs afterall they voted it in.

[shrub]

This is true.
It is also 'true' that with Jeanette Fitzsimons and Rod Donald away, the Greens have more work to do to regain the level of mana they had, for those that gave them quiet respect, and even perhaps a quiet vote on the side. Ardent supporters won't be affected, but outsiders might take more convincing now and that is a risk the Greens will surely aware of.

I have read the policies of every significant party (I'm a political science nerd) and I like a lot of what the Greens stand for. They don't have any pretensions of running the country and apart from in core areas (the environment, social justice etc), their policies are simply statements of the influence they would like to exert in the house and during the select committee process. I voted for them in the last election, and can't see that changing in 2011, but as a marketer I can't see the logic in giving Gareth Hughes the job. He is (from all accounts) a very intelligent and hard working young man, but his background is not going to win many new supporters. If I was the Greens PR person I would NOT have given as much emphasis to his being arrested or working as a minimum wage employee - or maybe focussed on something a little more mainstream.

BTW, has anyone remembered that the Greens have been very, very supportive of our protests against the ACC levies, and does anyone know that Green MP David Clendon is a long term biker (rides an SV1000 S, before that a GSXR1100). I think the "Fucken Greenies" have more in common with us, and are better friends than any of the grey parties.

[shrub]

Funny thing why don't our MP's drug tested?Most other occupations have legislation forced on them so they can do random testing,so why not our MPs afterall they voted it in.

Might catch the grey parties out - I know for a fact that all the current sitting Green MPs are completely drug free, but it wouldn't surprise me if some the other Pollies were fond of a toke or two after a big night at Bellamies.

[Okey Dokey]

You buggers should get me in as a green MP.
The basis of my campaign is:
2,4,5-T will be re-introduced... in fact it will be compulsory!

You're welcome!

I think that would make you an ORANGE MP, wouldn't it?

[Ronin]

Might catch the grey parties out - I know for a fact that all the current sitting Green MPs are completely drug free, but it wouldn't surprise me if some the other Pollies were fond of a toke or two after a big night at Bellamies.

Pretty bold statement unless you are with them 27/7

[shrub]

Pretty bold statment unless you are with them 27/7

I understand that it's internal Green party policy for all MPs to be drug free, and having met a few of them, they are definitely straight and certainly not pissheads. Pity about the stereotypes, hey? That is probably the worst thing about David Clendon riding a high performance bike like an SV1000S - surely a Green should ride an electric scooter and no more?

Maybe the stereotypes are wrong?