Rant: filtering

**R-Soul** · 5th February 2010, 14:29

Originally Posted by spajohn

You clearly think you are a considerate rider...and maybe you are. As both a rider and a car driver I move to the left to let bikes etc past when I'm able...but if I had someone honking and revving behind me I would think you are a complete arse. As you say, you don't keep at it so maybe it's not the same thing.

All that said and done...you don't seem to have taken criticism from this forum too well either...

I told you I dont sit there like an idiot honking all the time - just once to be sure that you know I am there. You gon on about it like I am having a road rage fit. I sit there pateintly, fuming. Thats all.

And I accept that sometimes other will not be prepared to go where I am. Just like I wont do what other will in other situations. But then I wont obstruct them from going about their business either.

**R-Soul** · 5th February 2010, 14:31

Originally Posted by Pascal

Either way, yeah. I agree there is a certain amount of consideration in making sure you don't hold others up. Just as there is a certain amount of consideration in understanding that others won't always be able or willing to do what you will. It cuts both ways.

Well said - Thats all I am saying.

**R-Soul** · 5th February 2010, 14:38

Originally Posted by spajohn

All that said and done...you don't seem to have taken criticism from this forum too well either...

Thats because all criticism has been based on an unfounded idea of my behviour.

I like to think of myself as a damn considerate rider. And more importantly one that shows intent.
I think that is what frustrated me the most about the incident - the uncertainty. If the rider in front had stayed in the middle, and not gone through, then I would have accepted that they were not confident enough to take the gap. Fair enough- I also lack confidence in some situations. We all do. I would have been happy to wait for them to be happy with the gap.

But it was the fact that they moved slightly to the side. Enough to show they had no intention of filtering (i.e. directly behind the corner of a car in front) , but not enough to really be out of the way, and forcing a tightish squeeze for me.

If you are not interested in going further then get out of the way completely. On a bike, more space is good, most space better.

**R-Soul** · 5th February 2010, 14:45

Just remember that whatever situation you get yourself into, you must be thinking "worst case scenario". So what happens when here I am squeezing past an inconsiderate rider with not much space to steer in, and a car starts pulling out? (Note this is hypothetical - it did not happen). So there is no space for either of us to be moving to the side, counter steering or even making a wide arc!

Yes, you can argue I should not have tried to go past when they did not allow me space, but it is like trying to pass a slow car in an area that is not a passiing zone in the incionsiderate driver scenario I talked about below.

There is give and take from both sides.

**CookMySock** · 5th February 2010, 15:46

Originally Posted by R Sole

So how am I being inconsiderate?

You aren't. You are just saying that your feelings are other peoples' responsibility, when they're not. They're yours'.

Originally Posted by R Sole

So for them to turn around afterwards, and then turn into an obstacle in that lane for no good reason, making it impossible for others to use, is completely selfish and inconsidearate.

Boo hoo hoo. Sometimes people are. There isn't anything you can do about it.

This isn't a motorcycling lesson. This is a life lesson.

Hum the following after me, to the tune of "mary had a little lamb"

O~ "There's nothing I can dooooo about it, there's nothing I can dooooo about it, there's nothing I can dooooo about it, there's nothing I can dooooo about it, there's nothing I can dooooo about it."

See? You're fucked. Give it up. There really IS nothing you can DO about it. You CANNOT MAKE anyone DO anything. Add to that, you cannot make anyone SEE what you mean, you cannot MAKE anyone understand you.

The sooner you get used to the idea, the easier your whole life will be.

Steve

**Maha** · 5th February 2010, 15:53

Dangerous Tips.....!
Where everyone else..........is wrong.

**Deano** · 5th February 2010, 15:59

Originally Posted by Maha

Dangerous Tips.....!
Where everyone else..........is wrong.

Mind that child, the one with his hand on his cone. LOL

**riffer** · 5th February 2010, 16:03

Originally Posted by Maha

Dangerous Tips.....!
Where everyone else..........is wrong.

So what's new? Watch out he may go running to the mods about your meanness Maha...

**Maha** · 5th February 2010, 16:07

Originally Posted by riffer

So what's new? Watch out he may go running to the mods about your meanness Maha...

Im not mean, that bloody Deano Fulla is harsh though...

**flyingcrocodile46** · 5th February 2010, 16:12

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

See? You're fucked. Give it up. There really IS nothing you can DO about it. You CANNOT MAKE anyone DO anything. Add to that, you cannot make anyone SEE what you mean, you cannot MAKE anyone understand you.

The sooner you get used to the idea, the easier your whole life will be.
Steve

I know you already know what a wanker you are, so I will restrict my response to pointing out how wrong you are.

He can make a difference and probably already has with this thread. It doesn't always take extremes (as below) to get a message accross. Not all are as thick as you appear to be.

About a year ago I had the pleasure of re-educating a yarpie tard who was part of a group of ex co-workers that I was having drinks with. He observed my crash hat and made the following comment "I hate the way you bikies ride up between the lanes while I am crawling along stuck in traffic on the motorway. When I see a bike coming up in my rear vision mirror I move across to close the gap so he cant pass"

I won't bother typing all the nasty shit that I shoveled on him, suffice to say that he was well warned of the consequences if I caught him doing that.

As luck would have it, it was only a few weeks later that he tried that exact maneuver on me. Fortunately it didn't delay me as the car in the next lane over reacted and veered over to avoid him

so I was able to scoot between them took my hand off the throttle and smashed his wing mirror

(not recommended due to the hell wobble that is created... almost lost it)

I have twice seen him on the motorway since (while I was in a cage) and he actually moved to make room for a lane splitter on one occasion

**Str8 Jacket** · 5th February 2010, 16:12

Originally Posted by Deano

Mind that child, the one with his hand on his cone. LOL

In my opinion that is an absolutely brilliant post!

You must alway's look out for children when filtering.

**CookMySock** · 5th February 2010, 16:13

Originally Posted by Maha

Dangerous Tips.....!
Where everyone else..........is wrong.

Logic, well-formed ideas, considered opinion? Let's hear them.

Steve

**Maha** · 5th February 2010, 16:33

Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket

In my opinion that is an absolutely brilliant post!

You must alway's look out for children when filtering.

Not alot of filtering to done be in Edgecome though I would have thought?
Still, I guess Neil Armstrong didnt know to much about the Moon until he got there.

**Deano** · 5th February 2010, 16:38

Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket

In my opinion that is an absolutely brilliant post!

You must alway's look out for children when filtering.

Shit I forgot to say it was just my opinion.

Originally Posted by Maha

Not alot of filtering to done in Edgecome though I would have thought?
Still, I guess Neil Armstrong didnt know to much about the Moon until he got there.

Actually, this post is more brilliant.