False radar beams?

**mashman** · 9th February 2010, 09:30

Originally Posted by Pixie

Four wheel crossing of the centerline in corner is nearly always laziness.I have never followed a vehicle that crossed the centerline and was not able to go faster through that corner without crossing it.

Absolutely. I see it every day (from my window), am part of it every day (leaving work) and am fed up with seeing lazy bastards go around roundabouts using both lanes... sheer laziness... I think these devices are a great idea when placed appropriately, like on school busses etc... they slow traffic around kids... kids do strange things, like bolt out into the road. I've had a few run in to the side of my car before and hate the little shits... Adults should just know better, but some just don't give a shit about "baby on board", "mind that child" etc... primarily because they're thinking about something else, the hard day coming or just been at work, the curtains, the shopping, new ruby slippers etc...

If you want to "educate" new drivers, old drivers, any driver for that matter, i'd put them all on a track and let them drive around at a "modest" speed limit... but, also have a person in some form of vehicle drive around and cause crashes once in a while... when they least expect it. That way people get to know what it's like to have a crash, how it feels, reflect on whether it could have been avoided etc... Add gravel to the odd corner herer and there, spill water across the track, diesel, oil, cardboard kids leaping from behind cars etc... the list is endless and could actually turn into a comprehensive trainign course, more relevant to today than the pathetic excuse for licensing that we currently haqve. Granted this may not work too well for bikes (especially the track conditions), but if you can rig a bike up to crash safely, then the same can apply for bikes. Unfortunately $$$ is the overriding factor AGAIN... what's are the lives of our road users worth!!!

**avgas** · 9th February 2010, 09:53

I think its a good idea, but what I really need is one near all the things I smack my legs into at home.

**dangerous** · 9th February 2010, 10:33

found here http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10625027

ACC has been buying old police radar gear in a covert plan to thwart speeding motorists.

The radars have been mounted on power poles at up to 70 sites nationally, and are intended to fool drivers with detectors in their cars into thinking police are nearby.

Five radars have also been bought by school bus companies to slow motorists around children, and another six have been requested.

Official estimates put the number of motorists with radar detectors at about one in 10.

A Wellington firm, Emergency Vehicle Systems, buys the radars from the police and sells them on renamed as "drones".

They are used as part of a project between ACC's road safety action planning group, police, the Transport Agency and councils.

It has been under way for about a year, and about $7000 has been invested so far.

ACC buys the drones for around $150 and passes them on to the agency, councils and others for distribution.

Injury prevention manager Phil Wright said yesterday that 10 drones were initially trialled in Canterbury for six months before being shifted to the North Island.

While there had been no plan to keep the project secret, ACC had been happy for it to remain under wraps, he said.

"We didn't tell anyone as we thought it would be best if, when a signal went off, motorists didn't assume it was part of this programme," Mr Wright said.

In the last financial year, ACC received claims worth at least $81 million relating to crashes where speed was a factor.

Mr Wright said the radar idea had followed on from a proposal by Harry Duynhoven when he was Labour's Transport Minister to ban detectors.

"[Detectors] are sold to people who are the more hardcore speedsters. They are an essential element in a boy-racer car.

"They are banned in Australia. Even if they were banned here, there is a couple of years' leeway for retailers. We thought, 'What can we do in the meantime?"'

Current minister Steven Joyce's office said yesterday that he was still awaiting advice from officials on the proposed detector ban.

It was revealed in July that police had begun removing radars from their fleet throughout the country.

The drones are also being used by roadwork contractors to attach to their machinery.

Well, thought as much. There has been one on the M/W at the Mak bridge for a year or so, and also down Lincoln Rd, I have not spoted that one as yet.

Ya know these detectors have SWS which is used in the US, it gives warnings of accos, schools, road works, John Deer fit them to theer tractors etc, and I might add that saved me from rearending a tractor as I rounded a bend on the open Rd (shows as a ka band, but if NZ used SWS it would show as 'tractor' etc.
Why dont these pricks look at doing good with the money thay have instead of making enemys and decieving us?

**captain_andrey** · 9th February 2010, 10:53

Just disable K band - easy.

**p.dath** · 9th February 2010, 11:06

If someone has the time, it would be interesting reading up who the radio frequency licence was given to (I'm guessing it will be in the name of the Police).

I suspect with ACC being an SOE, it wont have a licence to operate equipment in that band. Ditto for any council deploying these units.

**captain_andrey** · 9th February 2010, 11:08

I think the K band is pretty open. Ka on the other hand is restricted. This is why I'm not allowed a Radar Jammer

**dangerous** · 9th February 2010, 11:36

ummm, but these x cop radars are ka...

ps: dumb mod that scrubed my thread, a p/m would have been nicer.

**slofox** · 9th February 2010, 12:31

Originally Posted by captain_andrey

Just disable K band - easy.

They work in Ka...same as real police radars...disable that and you might as well uninstall the detector...

**peasea** · 9th February 2010, 15:26

Originally Posted by dangerous

ummm, but these x cop radars are ka...

ps: dumb mod that scrubed my thread, a p/m would have been nicer.

Mods being nice? Hahahahahahahaha

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**CookMySock** · 9th February 2010, 15:33

Originally Posted by peasea

Mods being nice? Hahahahahahahaha

I've never had a rude word from a moderator, not in their official duties anyway.

Steve

**Str8 Jacket** · 9th February 2010, 15:47

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

I've never had a rude word from a moderator, not in their official duties anyway.

Steve

They're too scared to raise a barrage of complaints from you I would say.

Always be more worried about what people are saying behind your back, not to your face.

**R-Soul** · 9th February 2010, 15:50

Ther's a really cool urban legend about a pair of cops busy speed trapping in Northern Scotland. There they are sitting behind a bush over their radar detector, when they get a reading of some 1000km/hr.

Next thing a bloody great big fighter jet comes through over them at really low altitude.

So they tell their commanding officer about it at the station, who then calls the local air base's CO to complain.

The airbase's CO cuts him off mid- complaint, and says to him "Do you have any idea how lucky your two officers were today?"

The cop CO asks why. The base CO then explains that the Harrier jets have an IFF system (for - Iidentification Friend or Foe) on them. Each friendly jet (i.e. westernised allies) sends out a coded identification signal with their radar that identifies them as a friend. Those that don't are regarded as foes.

Typically, when the Harrier jet's sensors pick up a radar signal, it warns the pilot that they are being tracked. But sometimes the radar signal source is too close, and the pilot would not have enough time to react to the threat. In such cases it automatically releases an anti-radar missile that tracks the source of the radar and homes in on it to destroy it. The cop's radar had no "friendly" signal associated with it. the
Harrier 's system had picked up on it and had actuated the release missile release. But it was only by a stroke of luck that no radar tracking missiles were fitted that morning....

**shafty** · 9th February 2010, 15:57

Originally Posted by dangerous

found here http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10625027

"They are banned in Australia. Even if they were banned here, there is a couple of years' leeway for retailers. We thought, 'What can we do in the meantime?"'

Current minister Steven Joyce's office said yesterday that he was still awaiting advice from officials on the proposed detector ban.

It was revealed in July that police had begun removing radars from their fleet throughout the country.

The drones are also being used by roadwork contractors to attach to their machinery.

Well, thought as much. There has been one on the M/W at the Mak bridge for a year or so, and also down Lincoln Rd, I have not spoted that one as yet.

Ya know these detectors have SWS which is used in the US, it gives warnings of accos, schools, road works, John Deer fit them to theer tractors etc, and I might add that saved me from rearending a tractor as I rounded a bend on the open Rd (shows as a ka band, but if NZ used SWS it would show as 'tractor' etc.
Why dont these pricks look at doing good with the money thay have instead of making enemys and decieving us?

Thats interesting Dangerous - I had wondered what the signal from tractors was for - seems a brilliant idea, and sad that NZ authorities have take the "Detectors are only used by hard core Speedsters approach".

If they played fair, I wouldn't need mine...