2010 vfr 1200

**CookMySock** · 21st March 2010, 18:15

Originally Posted by 325rocket

thats the one. all the reviews in the world wont tell you how it feels to you. best thing you can do is put the magazine down and go test ride one.

Thats a very clever reviewer if he got you to do that.

Steve

**Hitcher** · 21st March 2010, 18:47

The next trick is to find a Honda "dealer" with a demo. I understand that the closest one is in Palmerston North.

**Urano** · 21st March 2010, 22:49

Originally Posted by SPP

the VFR1200 is what it is. A big lump of V4, 4-stroke, piston engine.

you're right... and i like the v4 architecture, it's clever... i'd only wished they'd choose to downsize a bit...

2sec? Nope, but I’m hearing you. They are quick, just not that quick.

ok ok ok... i seee you're a bit pedantic, but even worse you're right...

mine was about 3 and a half, similar to sv or gladius... monster 675 and daytona do better...
2 sec... i've been way enthusiastic...

anyway, as you say, it's QUICK.

It’s a Honda. That in itself removes all possibility of being mistaken for a man.

I don't particularly like the VFR1200 either, but for shallow reasons like it's friggin ugly and it looks too big and fat. Who knows, I may actually see one, ride it and love it.... maybe.

you know, this is to be said: vfr is much smaller than it looks. i've been surprised of how much is "thin" compared to what the images on papers made me think.
anyway it's still "ugly as hungriness", as we say in italy...

Originally Posted by Slyer

This is how it seems to me. I'm fairly happy on my 250 revving it up. People talk of having to rev 650's a lot to get it to go anywhere. Ummmm really?
My 250 is a decent enough for long distances and I'm thinking a 650 would be about perfect size, so you really need more? Are tourers that lazy?
Suppose I'll need to try them and decide myself.

read what Steve says. He's right.
when i was in the first 1000 km on my ninja650, with the rev limited to 4000, i thought "who the hell could need more?".
then i reached the right mileage, and i revved up to 7000....
I don't want to be misunderstood.
i like power, speed and torque... only, with my 650 twin i was at 90kmh at 4000rpm, 130 6000... when in 3° or 4° i could get from 40-50 kmh to "please-officer-dont-shred-my-licence" speed truly fast, so i was pretty happy with that.
more happy, considering that i was going to an average of 20-25 km/l, and had between legs a bike that was similar to a 250 as for dimensions...
so, for me: 650cc > good, 750cc > maybe better, 800cc > well, yes, but let's start lookin' at weight and dimensions, more than 800 > no thanks, i'll take the car...

i was longin for moto morini to downsize their fabulous 1200 "corsacorta" to a reasonable displacement... sigh....

**CookMySock** · 22nd March 2010, 06:15

Originally Posted by Urano

read what Steve says. He's right.

Haha, another line to add to my sig.

Steve

**Slyer** · 22nd March 2010, 07:14

Oh fuck look what you've done Urano.
You've helped reinforce the idea that he has anything worthwhile to say.
He's wrong so often that someone agreeing with him is a fucking achievement...

**CookMySock** · 22nd March 2010, 08:14

Originally Posted by Slyer

Oh fuck look what you've done Urano.
You've helped reinforce the idea that he has anything worthwhile to say.
He's wrong so often that someone agreeing with him is a fucking achievement...

LMAO!!!!

Steve

**Pixie** · 22nd March 2010, 08:28

Originally Posted by Hitcher

I get tired very quickly about reviews of that nature. I mean who really cares if a crankshaft is 180 or 360 degrees, the valve stems peened or if the heads are made of forged kyptonite? How does a bike actually ride in the real world? What's it like two up and with luggage on it? Where's the head-to-head comparison with a real sports tourer like an FJR1300 or a Concours, instead of all this bullshit comparo wankery invoking BMWs? The only thing of interest I learned from Paul Owen's "review" is that this bike has a limited fuel range, especially compared to the ST1300 it "replaces". Indeed a proper head to head comparison with the ST would be a good read.

It's known as "interviewing the sales brochure"

**NZsarge** · 22nd March 2010, 09:00

Too expensive, if it were $26k with luggage it might be worth considering, it's not as ugly as I first thought it was but it is'nt an oil painting either, nice bike but waayyy over priced.

**Urano** · 22nd March 2010, 09:03

Originally Posted by Slyer

Oh fuck look what you've done Urano.
You've helped reinforce the idea that he has anything worthwhile to say.
He's wrong so often that someone agreeing with him is a fucking achievement...

oh shit! i'm sorry pal...
doesn't your hospital system help such guys?

**Hitcher** · 22nd March 2010, 18:51

Originally Posted by NZsarge

Too expensive, if it were $26k with luggage it might be worth considering, it's not as ugly as I first thought it was but it is'nt an oil painting either, nice bike but waayyy over priced.

Hence, I suspect, the reason that Honda is so keen to compare it with BMWs, rather than with its major Japanese competitors and with its now obsolete brother.

**Big Dave** · 22nd March 2010, 19:00

Originally Posted by Hitcher

Indeed a proper head to head comparison with the ST would be a good read.

One is a big arsed comfortable touring bike and the other is a fast sports tourer with a capital sports.

I don't see the fuel range as a big problem in NZ - it's not very good - but I need a leg stretch every 200km anyway - and it does more than that. I was getting 200 to reserve but I got reprimanded for wheelieing it too ;-(
Conversely if you have that bee in yous bon-net if a 'touring bike' doesn't do 400km then it ain't for you.
Performance-wise cross a Sprint ST with a Hyabusa and you get the pitcher. High praise in these quarters.

I quite like the look too.

**SPP** · 22nd March 2010, 21:54

Originally Posted by Urano

ok ok ok... i seee you're a bit pedantic

Yeah, I get carried away sometimes.

I hear ya about a 650cc being plenty for most. Hard to justify the need for 170hp and 130Nm to a sane person, but needs must.