Road or Rider

[SMOKEU]

is there such a thing?

I wouldn't know, I've never ridden anything quicker than my CBR250.

[hayd3n]

Its possible...this looks like Target fixation.

total noob more like it

[Maha]

Sure does! Target fixation is a shocker.... damn hard habit to get out of. It is so easy to focus on what you don't want to hit. Having interviewed many drivers, they often confessed to having looked at the object they hit and invariably and literally drive/ride straight into it.

Heres one for ya Cam...

[Toaster]

Heres one for ya Cam...

Nice one Mark, I really enjoyed that. I am doing a ride tomorrow, so feel duly inspired!

[onearmedbandit]

In the first vid it appears he loses the front end immediately after going across the change in surface. The front tucks and down he goes. In the second clip the guy is chopping the throttle quiet heavily suggesting everything isn't right for him in that corner, then appears to lose it through excessive throttle. The third guy to me (as all my comments are my opinion) once again just appears to be too hard on the gas exiting.

One thing I did notice as consistent with all the vids, was that the road just, well, lay there. It did what it was supposed to do, which is take you somewhere. And whether it takes you to your destination of choice, or to one you have no choice in (be it the hospital or morgue), the road is always dependable. Just laying there, doing it's job perfectly.

You can call me heartless or whatever, but I've seen the fourth clip before and I had the same reaction I did the first time. I watched again and again and again laughing at the clowns actions leading up to that crash. Passing a car on the outside in the outside lane with a guardrail 1m to your side and dirty pavement. What was he thinking was going to happen?

[MotoKuzzi]

My pick would be light ball bearing like dust / grit on the road being blown down from that loose material on the bank above.

[Edbear]

Sure does! Target fixation is a shocker.... damn hard habit to get out of. It is so easy to focus on what you don't want to hit. Having interviewed many drivers, they often confessed to having looked at the object they hit and invariably and literally drive/ride straight into it.

I'm always looking at my wife... Oh, wrong thread...

[Toaster]

I'm always looking at my wife... Oh, wrong thread...

Yeah but standing outside the bathroom window when you do it??!!

[Edbear]

Yeah but standing outside the bathroom window when you do it??!!

Nothing so uncouth, my good Sir! I simply open the door to the ensuite while she's showering...

[smoky]

You can't go around the corner with your front brake hard on - one of the most common reasons people come off, panic and hit the brakes

The one on the blue bike who comes off; you can see as he's cornering he is actually leaning less than the bike - his body weight being higher than the bike - then his front wheel tips in? did he apply the brake?
Poor body position?

The guy on the white bike is in a better position, but I'm guessing his head and shoulders should be lower, then the bike doesn't have to be over as much - looks like a combination of light dust or crap on the tar and too much throttle at the wrong time


The real problem though is that they're all on the wrong side of the road

[Edbear]

In the first vid it appears he loses the front end immediately after going across the change in surface. The front tucks and down he goes. In the second clip the guy is chopping the throttle quiet heavily suggesting everything isn't right for him in that corner, then appears to lose it through excessive throttle. The third guy to me (as all my comments are my opinion) once again just appears to be too hard on the gas exiting.

One thing I did notice as consistent with all the vids, was that the road just, well, lay there. It did what it was supposed to do, which is take you somewhere. And whether it takes you to your destination of choice, or to one you have no choice in (be it the hospital or morgue), the road is always dependable. Just laying there, doing it's job perfectly.

You can call me heartless or whatever, but I've seen the fourth clip before and I had the same reaction I did the first time. I watched again and again and again laughing at the clowns actions leading up to that crash. Passing a car on the outside in the outside lane with a guardrail 1m to your side and dirty pavement. What was he thinking was going to happen?

He was thinking..???

[Maha]

You can't go around the corner with your front brake hard on - one of the most common reasons people come off, panic and hit the brakes
The first post the one on the blue bike who comes off; is interesting, you can see as he's cornering he is actually leaning less than the bike - his body weight being higher than the bike - then his front wheel tips in? did he apply the brake?
Poor body position
The guy on the white bike is in the correct position - looks like a combination of light dust or crap on the tar and too much throttle at the wrong time

They all amusing though eh?...which is why I put them up.
Nothing too serious just, slow-mo lowsides.

[howdamnhard]

In the first vid it appears he loses the front end immediately after going across the change in surface. The front tucks and down he goes. In the second clip the guy is chopping the throttle quiet heavily suggesting everything isn't right for him in that corner, then appears to lose it through excessive throttle. The third guy to me (as all my comments are my opinion) once again just appears to be too hard on the gas exiting.

What he said. The road may have had a light dusting of sand on it making it slipperier than expected but then the other riders made it through.
The last guy just looks like he got target fixation after coming in hot ,gearing down to slow down and unsettling himself and bike.

[smoky]

They all amusing though eh?...which is why I put them up.
Nothing too serious just, slow-mo lowsides.

sure are - and because they're slow and not to serious they're good to learn from

[Toaster]

They all amusing though eh?...which is why I put them up.
Nothing too serious just, slow-mo lowsides.

Reminds me of a medium speed crash I saw online. I think it was an asian couple. The pillion was killed and torn apart between the legs after hitting the post under the guard rail.