Suspension set up day/sausage sizzle with Shaun Harris 17/4/2010

[p.dath]

Mmmmmmmm Sausage, every Honda rider/owner loves Sausage.

Yawn. Haven't heard that piece of humour before.

[Drumboy4468]

Sth of the Nth will be soon mate

Ideally, Manfield would be the best place

sweet will be there for sure

[Maha]

Yawn. Haven't heard that piece of humour before.

Have you've heard...'Spray and Wiki away' before?...now thats pretty funny!

[R-Soul]

Lucky I am TOOL then!

hehe no offence meant...

From what I have read of others with the same bike, I have the standard 'ol VTR suspension problems- too hard at the back and too soft at the front. And no special adjustement tool to fix it (even if I knew what to do...)

[The Stranger:Me]

even if I knew what to do...

There must be a furmula on the Internet somewhere, I'm sure you and pdath can work it out - with a little help thrown in from dangerousbastard.

[R-Soul]

There must be a furmula on the Internet somewhere, I'm sure you and pdath can work it out - with a little help thrown in from dangerousbastard.

Actually I just got hold of the owners manual for my bike, so now I know WHERE to adjust it. Now I just need to figure out HOW to adjust it properly. In the book "Total control" it explains a lot about how to do it, and why (I can send you a copy if you want). Now all I need to do is get hold of a pin spanner to be able to adjust it.

I am sure I could have a play or two...

[p.dath]

Actually I just got hold of the owners manual for my bike, so now I know WHERE to adjust it. Now I just need to figure out HOW to adjust it properly. In the book "Total control" it explains a lot about how to do it, and why (I can send you a copy if you want). Now all I need to do is get hold of a pin spanner to be able to adjust it.

I am sure I could have a play or two...

Suspension is a black magic. Have a chat to someone like Shaun before attempting adjustments yourself (or at least write down the settings befoire you start, and only have one change at a time).
I think you'll find that most suspension "errors" with newer riders is to do with the rider and not the bike.

I wouldn't dare mess with the suspension of my bike - I don't have anywhere near the knowledge to stand a chance of making something "better". And I am confident any issues I'm having could be fixed with someone giving be riding advice ...

[chrispy121]

read my post before I read 5 books on suspension and still managed to not get it right it took shaun 10 mins to set mine up and it has been great ever since.
out of all of my frineds with r6 mine handles better and is much easier on tyres than theres that is until shaun sets them up next weekend

[Shaun]

read my post before I read 5 books on suspension and still managed to not get it right it took shaun 10 mins to set mine up and it has been great ever since.
out of all of my frineds with r6 mine handles better and is much easier on tyres than theres that is until shaun sets them up next weekend

Obviously I just got lucky with a Guess set up there then eh Cheers

[FROSTY:Me]

Actually I just got hold of the owners manual for my bike, so now I know WHERE to adjust it. Now I just need to figure out HOW to adjust it properly. In the book "Total control" it explains a lot about how to do it, and why (I can send you a copy if you want). Now all I need to do is get hold of a pin spanner to be able to adjust it.

I am sure I could have a play or two...

Mate I'd like to suggest you have it all backwards. The basic question is. What is it that your suspension is doing NOW that you don't like?
From the answer to that question and as a result of the measurements he takes along the way Shaun draws on his TINY TEENY bit of setup experience (sorry Shaun couldn't resist) to make adjustments to the setup or perhaps suggests more serious changes to your suspenders
The 10 minutes "twiddling" is the end result of his years of experience.

[Grubber]

Ill give it a shot. Mine is good at the moment but would be interested to hear more on the "how too" bit.
Bit of Knowledge doesn't seem to hurt too much at times.

[Shaun]

Don't take this wrong folks, but you are not going to learn what I know nor develop a feal that I have for suspension in an afternoon.

If you have a problem with the way your bike is handling, come see us, but please do not expect me stand around trying to teach you how to do MY JOB!!

These days at frosty,s ( MILLARS CARS) are done for free, as a way for me to promote my skills and customer base for the future, and MILLARS for goog will PR to the Biker world

[R-Soul]

Mate I'd like to suggest you have it all backwards. The basic question is. What is it that your suspension is doing NOW that you don't like?
From the answer to that question and as a result of the measurements he takes along the way Shaun draws on his TINY TEENY bit of setup experience (sorry Shaun couldn't resist) to make adjustments to the setup or perhaps suggests more serious changes to your suspenders
The 10 minutes "twiddling" is the end result of his years of experience.

That would be a difficult one for me, as my bike has only ever had one setting that I have been riding on all the time. I cant say if it is good or bad, since I have nothing to compare it to, and dont know what its capable of...

It certainly is very hard and doesn't seem to handle small bumps in the road very well.

[The Stranger:Me]

That would be a difficult one for me.

It certainly is very hard and doesn't seem to handle small bumps in the road very well.

Wasn't actually difficult was it. No disrespect but you will be very surprised how effectively Shaun can interpret noob's ramblings and ask the salient questions as a result.

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

That would be a difficult one for me, as my bike has only ever had one setting that I have been riding on all the time. I cant say if it is good or bad, since I have nothing to compare it to, and dont know what its capable of...

It certainly is very hard and doesn't seem to handle small bumps in the road very well.

To try and clarify what it is Shaun does with suspension;

The bike you have has either has its suspension set at the factory settings or has been twiddled with at some point in its life.

Shaun will do a quick evaluation of these settings based on 'feel'. This sensory skill will have taken years to develop.
He will then get out the trusty measuring tape and take some recordings (now we are into the 'black art' phase).
Adjustments will be made, measurements re taken with you on and off the bike, tweeked and then you are sent of on a test ride. On your return your ramblings on how it feels will be deciphered/interpreted and any tweeking made. Job done.

Sounds simple enough eh...........and it is.....................if you have the know how and experience to translate what the bike and its rider are telling you.

The advise and input Shaun will give you is invaluable (he is the only person I know who travels the country doing this for free!! RT being the other exeption).

Dont expect to be taught anything on the day other than how having the right person working on your bike pays dividens out on the road.

The best performance mod you can do to a bike is have the suspension set up or better still upgraded, talk to him regarding what Motodynamix can offer you.....you wont be disappointed.
KG