So it is all over?

[bogan]

Fuck the non-biker support. I am soo over that, some other group that can't get their shit together is allowed to ride the tide with the bikers, and then producing nothing.

Mobilise the bikers again I say. A noisy no prisoners asault on the whole ACC/government to let them know that we are not playing games.

true enough, rolling road blocks I reckon, through tunnels if possible, cos that'd sound awesome!

[Maha]

Fuck the non-biker support. I am soo over that, some other group that can't get their shit together is allowed to ride the tide with the bikers, and then producing nothing.

In a way, I agree with that comment, we are Bikers and our time and energy should stay focused and centred on Bikers.

[MadDuck]

As bikers we will get the media attention. Big loud neandathols after all. Not one person I have spoken to about ACC doesnt know about or remember the November ride

[rustyrobot]

I think that focussing on Biker's issues is key, but that without majority support, there is not much chance of change. What is the leverage? PERHAPS 10,000 bikers could be scraped together once or twice a year, but that's hardly enough to worry any politician, let alone one who is still pretty much at the beginning of their term. I think that by really emphasizing that what is happening to bikers is just the tip of the iceberg, we can convince non-bikers to rally behind our cause. If they know that once biker's are targetted then, who knows, maybe social sports groups will be next, people with cars older than 5 years after that, etc. they might make enough noise to rattle a few politicians.

I've been a dirty hippy activist since way back, and the only causes I have ever seen being effective have been those which have been picked up by the majority of the middle-class voting public. Even then, with the majority support that this government has, I don't think they are worried about how they will be polling in a year and a half.

Yes - focus on bikers, yes - support bikers issues, but join the dots for others - so that they will join us.

[bogan]

I think that focussing on Biker's issues is key, but that without majority support, there is not much chance of change. What is the leverage? PERHAPS 10,00 bikers could be scraped together once or twice a year, but that's hardly enough to worry any politician, let alone one who is still pretty much at the beginning of their term. I think that by really emphasizing that what is happening to bikers is just the tip of the iceberg, we can convince non-bikers to rally behind our cause. If they know that once biker's are targetted then, who knows, maybe social sports groups will be next, people with cars older than 5 years after that, etc. they might make enough noise to rattle a few politicians.

I've been a dirty hippy activist since way back, and the only causes I have ever seen being effective have been those which have been picked up by the majority of the middle-class voting public. Even then, with the majority support that this government has, I don't think they are worried about how they will be polling in a year and a half.

Yes - focus on bikers, yes - support bikers issues, but join the dots for others - so that they will join us.

We tried that, nobody else got on board, the huge union protest turned out to be only 50 people, who were outnumbered by the bikers that turned up to show support. So fuck em, 10,000 votes isn't fuck all, but gridlocking major cities with bike protests will get on their nerves.

[MadDuck]

10,000 votes isn't fuck all, but gridlocking major cities with bike protests will get on their nerves.

10,000 people have lets say oh at a guess at least 50 or so mates, family or co-workers. Times that and work out the numbers and maybe they will take notice.

We were told to stay away from Welly in February because it was a union, PSA thing. So guess what? We did. Do we need to gridlock cities and piss the average person off going about their daily business? I am not convinced we do but no doubt I will be shot down.

[Maha]

We tried that, nobody else got on board, the huge union protest turned out to be only 50 people, who were outnumbered by the bikers that turned up to show support. So fuck em, 10,000 votes isn't fuck all, but gridlocking major cities with bike protests will get on their nerves.

Once it starts rolling again, I will particularly interested in how many turn out for protest action this time round?
Have bikers in general accepted the status quo?
Has Nick Smith had the final word?

Im not into pissing off the public either.

[MadDuck]

Has Nick Smith had the final word?

As long as I have breath and a voice that prick wont hear the end of my objections to raping the ACC system!

EDIT: The biggest annoyance for me is my MP is Lockwood Smith. I can not even get a response from his office. One of the biggest electorates on the country and he is neutral.

[Mustek]

Whats the rego for a 900cc going up to???

[Coldrider]

Whats the rego for a 900cc going up to???

dunno the total but is going up $175 per annum from the present cost.

[pornoshauno]

Yep looks like this govt is gonna get their way, we're just the little people, bend us over and shaft us at will, use us as a door mat, kick sand in our faces, spike our drinks, shit in our helmets and my favourite as said by Les Mason "Tax us off the roads". Frkn great aye? OK we'll pay your extravagant levy increases...YEAH RIGHT!

[Maha]

Yep looks like this govt is gonna get their way, we're just the little people, bend us over and shaft us at will, use us as a door mat, kick sand in our faces, spike our drinks, shit in our helmets and my favourite as said by Les Mason "Tax us off the roads". Frkn great aye? OK we'll pay your extravagant levy increases...YEAH RIGHT!

Well possibly, but there are some out there that wont lay down and surrender just yet, if ever.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...s-protest-ride