Police killing us again!

**Elysium** · 19th April 2010, 17:30

Originally Posted by scumdog

Mwahahahahahahhahaa........

Scumdog seems to come across as a person with a police record then a police officer.

**Bald Eagle** · 19th April 2010, 17:30

Originally Posted by Naki Rat

The police hierarchy and Stoney were just interviewed on National Radio . Great presentation Stoney..... and the police spokesman came across like a cornered rat, especially as the interviewer was in like a big dog. 50-60 metres from the brow of a blind brow

the cop needs stringing up

Can't play on the mac anyone got an mp3 version ?

**MSTRS:Me** · 19th April 2010, 17:30

Originally Posted by miloking

What are you two cops or something (you and Scumdog)?!?!

I dont know you guys so sorry if i insulted you by calling you cops (i know i would be if someone called me a cop right now) but whos side are you realy on? the dead innocent biker or the stupid ignorant retard of a lame excuse for tax collector cop?

They are...normally of the 'good' sort. But in times of trouble, the gang closes ranks...
We don't know that the biker was 'innocent' as such. Many of us have been known to use a speeding cage as a radar shadow. And it does look like the cop car got shunted round...takes a fair bit of impact for 170kgs (say) to shift 2000kgs.
Still, regardless of what the bike was travelling at, it doesn't excuse such a manouevre in that particular spot. As others have said, a fully laden B-train would not stop in time either.

**Beeza** · 19th April 2010, 17:31

Coppers get a hunter's tunnel-vision when they scent a speed-chase coming up. Doing a u-turn without looking and simply trusting your flashing lights to clear your path is gross stupidity. A man paid with his life for this cop's stupidity.

**98tls** · 19th April 2010, 17:31

Originally Posted by miloking

What are you two cops or something (you and Scumdog)?!?!

I dont know you guys so sorry if i insulted you by calling you cops (i know i would be if someone called me a cop right now) but whos side are you realy on? the dead innocent biker or the stupid ignorant retard of a lame excuse for tax collector cop?

This just gets better n better,fuck me its only Monday.

**Ixion** · 19th April 2010, 17:32

Another complexity is that we don't know if the rider may have made a call to try to ride round the back of the car, rather than braking. He almost made it

The posiiton of the bike wreck, on the uphill side, might indicate that he was moving tangentially to the obstacle. I'm still a bit puzzled by the position of the car. Granted , a hard enough hit can slew a car round. But the panel damage to the car doesn't seem bad enough for an impact that could turn a heavy holden right round and shunt it across the road to the other side.

**miloking** · 19th April 2010, 17:33

Originally Posted by 98tls

Does anyone know what speed the guy on the bike was doing?i dont but fwiw if a car was doing 150 kms in front of me then to be honest i would use that as a chance to stretch my legs as if there was a cop in the vicinity chances are hes going to get the car on his radar first.Dunno, just a thought.

Not sure about that, as no more info was given to media (surely it will be disclosed as part of the investigation) but I had Uturn done in front of me many times (mostly by housewifes having no clue that they are not alone on the road and few times by truck) but they were all in 50k zone so had a chance to live but once i stoped about meter away from the truck....so i would say at open road speeds the bike had no chance even if sticking to the speed limit.
Also are you implying that he was "chasing" the car???

**howdamnhard** · 19th April 2010, 17:35

Originally Posted by MSTRS

The cardinal sin (yet again) of doing shit in a blind spot...
How many times/investigations must there be, before a clear instruction is given..."Do not stop or turn without several hundred metres clear road in both directions"

Agreed ! Makes my blood boil ! Just because you put on your lights and sirens, or indicators for that matter, doesn't suddenly make the laws of physics irrelevant. Hate people who think putting their indicators on ,means they can just move without checking .

**miloking** · 19th April 2010, 17:42

Originally Posted by MSTRS

They are...normally of the 'good' sort. But in times of trouble, the gang closes ranks...
We don't know that the biker was 'innocent' as such. Many of us have been known to use a speeding cage as a radar shadow. And it does look like the cop car got shunted round...takes a fair bit of impact for 170kgs (say) to shift 2000kgs.
Still, regardless of what the bike was travelling at, it doesn't excuse such a manouevre in that particular spot. As others have said, a fully laden B-train would not stop in time either.

OHH lol, i mean burn...well i hope they are not the "Auckland" sort or hopefully they are the "office desk" type otherwise iam in trouble since they now know what i ride!

Well it must suck to be cop trying be proud of your job when your less "grey brain matter" endowed colleauges kill people....

**scumdog** · 19th April 2010, 17:46

There's an awful lot of people who seem to know a lot about cop training and procedures and mind sets etc.

And an awful lot that know what the cop 'should' have done (or more what he should NOT have done).

There's a Police College in dire need of trainers that can impart that sort of advice in the minds of recruits..Join up, tell 'em, save somebodys life....

**scumdog** · 19th April 2010, 17:47

Originally Posted by miloking

Well it must suck to be cop trying be proud of your job when your less "grey brain matter" endowed colleauges kill people....

Oh I dunno, the only one it must 'suck' to be is the driver at fault.

**sinfull** · 19th April 2010, 17:48

No need to read the rest of the thread after seeing the "better pic" !
Condolences to family and friends ! Rider didn't deserve to come over that brow to find that car in the middle of the road, no matter what speed he may or may not have been doing !

But i'm sure there will be a KB linch mob who will want cop blood blah blah blah , back in your cheap seats ya keyboard warriors, cause ya still a pack of apathetic prats !

The Official investigation and recomendations will go through the motions and the officer may or may not get charged, the rider will be buried and his family and friends will mourn !

The warriors will go back to their pathetic lives untill the next RIP post !!!

**98tls** · 19th April 2010, 17:48

Originally Posted by miloking

Not sure about that, as no more info was given to media (surely it will be disclosed as part of the investigation) but I had Uturn done in front of me many times (mostly by housewifes having no clue that they are not alone on the road and few times by truck) but they were all in 50k zone so had a chance to live but once i stoped about meter away from the truck....so i would say at open road speeds the bike had no chance even if sticking to the speed limit.
Also are you implying that he was "chasing" the car???

Been over a couple of U-turners myself though at low speed thankfully.Not implying he was chasing anything but merely stating that if a car was doing 150 clicks in front of me then chances are i would use that fact to travel faster,it doesnt excuse someone doing a u-turn in a stupid place but theres no doubt that the difference between that and 100kms may have factored in not being able to avoid the car,2 wrongs dont generally make a right.Anyway like all of this thread its merely speculation as we dont know the full story.

**Indoo** · 19th April 2010, 17:49

Originally Posted by miloking

but whos side are you realy on??

The side of basic grammar and literacy, which is why I've been ignoring your inane spamming in this thread.

Originally Posted by terbang

How can you defend such ridiculous and senseless acts by any organization, let alone one that should know a lot better?

I haven't defended him at all, if the facts are what they appear to be then he deserves all the condemnation he's getting. I'm just curious as to whether or not Ixion is simply making things up or if there is indeed an endemic of Police killing motorcyclists in this country like he claimed, if there is (and I'm sure he will produce the figures any moment now) then there should be a full inquiry and heads should role.