Police killing us again!

[peasea]

Do you do this? Slow down to achieve the optimum visibility ahead?
Like fuck.

Actually, I do usually. I like being alive and if I get mocked for being last to arrive coz the weather is shit or whatever, so be it. But I say "usually". One day something might bite me on the arse but I hope it isn't a cop doing a u-turn.

I did chuckle when I read in The Press this morning that something like five such incidents had occurred since 2007. Yeah right! There may be only five reported but I know of one incident (my daughter's) that hasn't made the stat's. Funny how the cops photographed the scene of her accident but there was no record of the accident at comms. Figure that out. If there's no record of the accident, why was the photographer there the next day? If there's no record of the accident why did a squad car turn up? If there's no record of the accident why was my daughter charged with crossing double yellows? (Trying to avoid the u-turning cop.)

It's because they're lying fucking homo's, that's why.

[nsrpaul]

ffs

it is possible that the bike was speeding, it was possible that he wasn't

time and investigation will tell

the question in my view is does the end justify the means, or is it ok to pull a dangerous manuover to catch a speeding motorist

i had a recent complaint with the local fuzz where I was in the wrong and offending on the road (had paid the fine before laying a complaint) and the police agrred after the fact that my actions while illegal were at the low end of the stupid scale and did not put the public in imediate danger

the police officers actions (off duty by the way) were agreed to put the public in immediate danger

guess what!!!

the complaint went nowhere, it is this "the ends justify the means" approach that needs to change

it is at the minimum partialy responsible for this tradgedy, and a true tradgedy it is

[peasea]

I wouldn't call it biased. I'd call it the public's general concensus.

Those of you who are trying to whitewash the motorcyclist's involvement in this incident are achieving nothing other than strengthening the public's perception that we're a bunch of retards.

Are we not?

Oops.

[Katman]

Are we not?

Oops.

I'd laugh...........




.......except I was under the impression that, if we were to have a fuckin' snowflakes chance of addressing the ACC issue, then we needed the general public on our side.

[nsrpaul]

It's because they're lying fucking homo's, that's why.

it could also be because eric davey is a crooked condesending prat if his handling of my complaints was anything to go by

they even tried to pin public complaints about my driving on me!! shame they couldnt get the coulor of the car right

I like the police (in general), am glad they are there, don't envy their job, but lost all respect for the complaints process locally some time ago

[peasea]

ffs

it is possible that the bike was speeding, it was possible that he wasn't
time and investigation will tell

Tell us what? What the police want to tell us.

I firmly believe that when a police officer's actions are brought into question, be that on the road or anywhere, then an investigation by persons NOT wearing a blue uniform should be undertaken. You see on tv the cops taking measurements and documenting 'evidence' right? Well come on, if anything points the finger at the cop (and not just in this instance) any such evidence will most likely be downplayed and the 'evidence' against any other party will most likely be embellished.

Do cops make shit up? Yes they fuckin' do. And when it comes to protecting their own they make it up pretty damned fast.

[idleidolidyll]

Huge condolences to Pauls family and friends: is there anything the KBers can do to help his family?

Cops? Liars and asswipes just reconfirmed for me last year and again recently.

1. Last year I (and a couple of others) tried to save a bikers life but failed. When the cops got there I heard them pronounce "speed was the major factor" but nobody paid any attention to three of us who KNOW the rider was going MUCH slower than us and was probably 30kph under the speed limit. Surprise surprise; the coroner didn't even call for our opinion as eye witnesses.

2. Busted for speeding when I wasn't. Points would have only added to 60 on my licence, money was only $120 but it was bogus so I spent 3 days in court defending myself. The cop got on the stand and lied his arse off and the JP's believed him.

Fuck em all: I have zero respect

Add to that the pricks booking me for careless use when a car did a U turn in front of me and when I was young ticketing me for going too slow...........at the back of a line of traffic!

Cops are liars, cunts and killers

[peasea]

it could also be because eric davey is a crooked condesending prat if his handling of my complaints was anything to go by

they even tried to pin public complaints about my driving on me!! shame they couldnt get the coulor of the car right

I like the police (in general), am glad they are there, don't envy their job, but lost all respect for the complaints process locally some time ago

Hey, you'll get some gooduns, no doubt, but when the shit hits the fan it's the Three Musketeers all over again.
Compalints process? Don't start me.

[Mudfart]

it will happen to a family in a car one day...... we just have to wait, which is as morbid as it sounds. however then there will be the cries of the cages. i dont beleive it is an issue of the guy being on a bike, its simply the definition of him being a road user.
the police and or govt ministers using the media to over emphasize that it was a bike rider, shows they have found an out clause.
some factors made clear in the campbell report: point of impact was at the double yellow. The cop definately had (a) yellow strip on his side of road. Turn attempt was a 3 pointer. And the cop holding the high stick, I think was an attempt to reconstruct the visibility of the blind hill.
The cop who didnt know what hit him truly must have felt terror at the time of the incident, he knew something had hit him, or he hit something, but he had no idea what. He must have been thinking he may have killed a family.

[miloking]

Yup. Be careful what we wish for.

Stop all patrols, use them as crash attendance only. *555? take it away - following a drunk/dangerous driver? Too bad. Someone's cutting in, overtaking dangerous etc etc - too bad. Can't run the risk of a pursuit occurring, so they just carry on doing what they're doing.

Nobody said stop all the patrols, all Iam saying is stop them from being dangerous cunts preaching about safety.

[candor]

AND if it was you or me we would have been charged with careless use causing death by now

I think Campbell deliberately picked those prop cop comments. As far as charges it's a 6 month statute of limitations and serious crash reports need doing first which take months to get back. If the cop is a decent type I think he'll prolly be wishing it was him gone instead. Presuming that since he ?chose traffic duties and attends crashes he may actually have a special interest and value life more than most.
As for Police - the Institution - how can there be 4 investigations yet noone has even taken a statement from the witness? I bet any other type of homicide the eye witness would have been seen by now.

[peasea]

Huge condolences to Pauls family and friends: is there anything the KBers can do to help his family?

Cops? Liars and asswipes just reconfirmed for me last year and again recently.

1. Last year I (and a couple of others) tried to save a bikers life but failed. When the cops got there I heard them pronounce "speed was the major factor" but nobody paid any attention to three of us who KNOW the rider was going MUCH slower than us and was probably 30kph under the speed limit. Surprise surprise; the coroner didn't even call for our opinion as eye witnesses.

2. Busted for speeding when I wasn't. Points would have only added to 60 on my licence, money was only $120 but it was bogus so I spent 3 days in court defending myself. The cop got on the stand and lied his arse off and the JP's believed him.

Fuck em all: I have zero respect

Add to that the pricks booking me for careless use when a car did a U turn in front of me and when I was young ticketing me for going too slow...........at the back of a line of traffic!

Cops are liars, cunts and killers

Thank you!

[nsrpaul]

good point made a few posts up

this issue is raw with us because it involves a bike rider, but it is of little relevance

could have been any road user, only difference is the dent in the cop car

[doc]

Just finished watching Campbell live. Already, without the 4 investigations that are involved in this being completed. There were comments made at the end of it about motorcyclists behaviour that the public perceived that the motorcyclist was at fault because of our behaviour on the roads.
We don't present ourselves as responsible users on the roads. Can't ever see us changing that either.

[miloking]

The cop who didnt know what hit him truly must have felt terror at the time of the incident, he knew something had hit him, or he hit something, but he had no idea what. He must have been thinking he may have killed a family.

yeah terror alright, more likely he knew that he fucked up and if his buddies wont protect him and quickly invent some evidence and "credible" witnesses he will have to give up keys to his holden....