Police killing us again!

**miloking** · 21st April 2010, 23:51

Originally Posted by crshbndct

i have dealt with the law. i know how cops really are. the truth is second to getting a conviction. just as road safety is second to $$$

Amen!!! To all you said.... i also have a nice graph to support the last statement

**Ixion** · 21st April 2010, 23:55

From the pictures the car didn't appear so trashed that the radio would no longer work. Was he calling some sort of "clean-up" operation that sanitises police fuck-ups in some way?

He might have wanted to call his wife/partner/girlfriend/boyfriend/goat to say he was ok so she/he/it didn't freak out when he/she/it heard he had been in a fatal crash ? That sort of news travels fast and usually gets distorted.

**idleidolidyll** · 22nd April 2010, 07:29

Originally Posted by scumdog

Wow, top rant dude, inane and stupid but still a top rant, you have excelled this time!

Oh, and still waiting for an example of my 'lie, bullshit and avade' stuff.....

Actually, rather than just a simple single post, I offered an entire thread; one in which you and the other coppers all closed ranks and posted lies, bullshit, evasion and just plain nonsense almost every time you typed.

I'm more than happy to start that entire thread again as it was only deleted when you and the other coppers were getting your asses kicked. As usual, you'd descended into ad hominem and fallacy.

As for my "top rant", that's a simplistic childish brush off because you and yours once again refuse to honestly debate the topic raised. Here's the main point raised identidied by you as a "top rant":

"speed does NOT kill; that's one of the dumbest absolute statements made by dumb ass coppers

i could drive up and down some roads in canterbury at 200kph for the rest of my life and never have an accident let alone die.

on the other hand, i could be killed by a fuckwit while doing 30kph"

Are you and yours ready to debate the disgraceful collection of road taxes, the idiot savant mindset of coppers who will chase people until they are dead for the crime of speeding (upon whence you generally declare "I stopped the pursuit 3 seconds before the accident") and the idiocy of the "speed kills" absolutist statement yet, or are you, as above, merely going to waffle and run away again?

**trustme** · 22nd April 2010, 07:54

1/ There is bugger all cell phone coverage in that area whioch may explain the cops actions.
2/ The local sport bike riders favourite party trick was to take the undulations on the Waerenga & Falls Rds fast enough to get airborne.

There is a bunch more to this than most of you realise. I've posted up twice , twice the post has failed to appear, I wonder who is doing the cover up.

**Pixie** · 22nd April 2010, 08:00

Originally Posted by MSTRS

No doubt that's true. But not in this case...or the Buller Gorge incident. Both cops had over 30 years in HW patrol.

30 years of bad driving with impunity finally caught up with them

**Pixie** · 22nd April 2010, 08:11

So who's sent an email showing your concern to the ministers concerned?Instead of just whining to the pack.
Do it now

j.collins@ministers.govt.nz
steven.joyce@national.org.nz

**Pixie** · 22nd April 2010, 08:19

Originally Posted by DougieNZ

Without reading the last 49 pages...

If you knew a ute doing a squillion kp/h passed a cop and then 10km down the road ploughed in to your family - killing them all - would you expect the cop to give chase? Would you be critical if he didn't do this as quickly as he thought was possible? I often am lead to ponder than question when i see the "driver killed while running from the police" headline.

We have seen from the Buller Gorge incident and actions after it that the police are taking these incidents seriously - whether or not you agree with the punishment the judge hands down.....

You should have read more before commenting - you wouldn't appear as silly.

If the cop chased the car in your hypothetical situation,would it make the crash worse or prevent it?Recent events may suggest the former.

As for taking it seriously - serious enough to prevent it happening twice more?It appears not.
Oh "serious" - you mean they fined the cop involved -that's a relief for the dead and injured.

**Caleb Brown** · 22nd April 2010, 08:28

Thank you for all the support that you have shown us. As Pauls brother I would like to extend a welcome to other motorcyclists to attend his funeral on Friday at 1pm, Waerenga Hall, Sattlement Road, Waerenga. Please bring your bike. Any small donations to the familly would be greatly appreciated.

**trustme** · 22nd April 2010, 08:28

Originally Posted by Pixie

You should have read more before commenting - you wouldn't appear as silly.

If the cop chased the car in your hypothetical situation,would it make the crash worse or prevent it?Recent events may suggest the former.

As for taking it seriously - serious enough to prevent it happening twice more?It appears not.
Oh "serious" - you mean they fined the cop involved -that's a relief for the dead and injured.

So plod should never persue. Speeding motorists should be left to get on with their right to break laws & drive in a dangerous manner. The scary thing is YOU are serious.

**Fatjim** · 22nd April 2010, 08:29

Originally Posted by Toaster

Lastly, and I make this very clear to those that hate the police - Police management deal with their own staff very harshly.

If you have a fatal crash, the serious crash unit investigates and will look at charges if you are found to be at fault.
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What SCU? You mean the one guy in the whole of wellington reagion that only has time to show up and take photos. The police admit themselves that the SCU can't front up to court with any meaningful input.

**Fatjim** · 22nd April 2010, 08:31

Originally Posted by trustme

So plod should never persue. Speeding motorists should be left to get on with their right to break laws & drive in a dangerous manner. The scary thing is YOU are serious.

There's no arguing with the guy.

He probably recycles as well. Prolly wearing a white Poppy as we speak, and can't see what would be wrong with that.

**Ronin** · 22nd April 2010, 08:44

Originally Posted by Caleb Brown

Thank you for all the support that you have shown us. As Pauls brother I would like to extend a welcome to other motorcyclists to attend his funeral on Friday at 1pm, Waerenga Hall, Sattlement Road, Waerenga. Please bring your bike. Any small donations to the familly would be greatly appreciated.

Hey Caleb. Thanks for letting us know about that. I'm sure that all those who can will be there.

Please dont take to much notice of all the drivel in here.

Condolences to you and your Family.

**Robert Taylor** · 22nd April 2010, 08:52

Originally Posted by Foxzee

Aww Robert we all no this thread is no longer about a man who has lost his life, two kids without a dad, partner grieving for her loved one, family devasted, not to mention other lives that will be effected...it's all about the audition for Fear Factor KB...hmmmm who will be the first to suck eggs from a rotton chicken........

No, its just highlighted that there are some people out there with some really nasty attitudes. Its also ( again ) highlighted a kangaroo court mentality.

**Swoop** · 22nd April 2010, 08:55

Originally Posted by Caleb Brown

Thank you for all the support that you have shown us. As Pauls brother I would like to extend a welcome to other motorcyclists to attend his funeral on Friday at 1pm, Waerenga Hall, Sattlement Road, Waerenga. Please bring your bike. Any small donations to the familly would be greatly appreciated.

Hello Caleb. Deepest condolences for the loss of Paul. Kia Kaha.