Police killing us again!

[Indoo]

You already stated that this thread was all about 'bashing the cops' and now your lamenting the lack of facts, figures and constructive debate?

[Gunnerl]

More like idiot on bike kills himself! The saving grace is that he didn't kill anyone else.

[BMWST?]

Exactly the point I was making. The turning circle is smaller than most would expect.

turning circle id different than the circle required when you initiate the turn form a higher speed.In the buller gorge case and this one the commodore is stil perpendicular to the road.it doesnt matter what the car is,you have to choose a spot that you can do a U turn safely

[Smifffy]

You already stated that this thread was all about 'bashing the cops' and now your lamenting the lack of facts, figures and constructive debate?

I've posted up plenty of facts figures,& quotes in support of the bash. Including, but not limited to, the road code, IPCA reports, and media reporting (of dubious value admittedly). Candor has posted up plenty of statistics and independent research reports.

What have you posted up? You couldn't even quote me in context.

[Indoo]

Get over yourself, don't take it all so seriously, you're starting to sound like Lou Gerardin......

Thats a bit harsh on Lou, he did at least have a sense of humour at times and a wee bit of experience in what he was talking about.

[Katman]

The reality is that motorcyclists are killing themselves in grossly far greater numbers than police are killing them.

Latching on to this one particular incident as an opportunity to bash the police shows the desperate straws that some will clutch at in order to mask the greater problem.

[bogan]

The reality is that motorcyclists are killing themselves in grossly far greater numbers than police are killing them.

Latching on to this one particular incident as an opportunity to bash the police shows the desperation that some will clutch at in order to mask the greater problem.

Cos this is one area where a difference can be made, change the policy so it doesn't happen, send the cops a message that they have to lead by example, that they are there to make the roads safer, not tax the road users.

And if you have ideas on how to make bikers safer in general, run with it, don't post BS impeding those that do.

[Katman]

And if you have ideas on how to make bikers safer in general, run with it, don't post BS impeding those that do.

Hey, now there's an idea.

[Smifffy]

The reality is that motorcyclists are killing themselves in grossly far greater numbers than police are killing them.

Latching on to this one particular incident as an opportunity to bash the police shows the desperation that some will clutch at in order to mask the greater problem.

I agree with Katman (are you going to put that in your sig? lolz)

The difference is that the police can do something about these types of incidents relatively easily, yet they refuse to.

There is no shortage of bikers acting like temporary NZers, nor any shortage of cagers capable of mowing us down. There have been many examples of both that have ended badly since this incident.

There was much the same rank closure during the Bridgeman incident, and yet the court found that he had been driving like a dick, and his subsequent behaviour showed that he is actually a dick.

I'm sure there's more than one of them in the force, and they all seem to stick together.

[Katman]

I agree with Katman (are you going to put that in your sig? lolz)

No, but I can add you to the list.

[trustme]

It's a funny old world , we got one thread about a rider clocked at 200kph & the next thread says 'the cops are killing us'.

Who is kidding who ???

[bogan]

It's a funny old world , we got one thread about a rider clocked at 200kph & the next thread says 'the cops are killing us'.

Who is kidding who ???

so if I do 100kmhr (and no drinking of course) I am completely safe right?

dunno if you saw on the news the story bout the car vs bus collision, reporter said neither alcohol or speed was a factor like it just didn't make any sense!

[Spearfish]

so if I do 100kmhr (and no drinking of course) I am completely safe right?

dunno if you saw on the news the story bout the car vs bus collision, reporter said neither alcohol or speed was a factor like it just didn't make any sense!

So that leaves the real problem, the human element. It must be really confusing if they had a new car with 5 stars, low emissions, didn't drive tired and use their safety belt...oh and ACC safety TAX blah blah blah.
one thing I know they didnt have to do..fark all to get a licence..

[scumdog]

so if I do 100kmhr (and no drinking of course) I am completely safe right?

dunno if you saw on the news the story bout the car vs bus collision, reporter said neither alcohol or speed was a factor like it just didn't make any sense!

They always leave out 'excessive' when they talk about speed, I'm sure saying 'excessive speed' must be too much of a mouthful.

A bit like the drinkdriving thing, I'm sure they mean 'excessive' drinking

But nobody seems to worry about that, they only focus on the use of the word 'speed'.

In the fatality quoted I suspect 'excessive stopping' would be an apt description....

[MSTRS:Me]

I never mentioned anyhting about pursuit policy as far as I can recall. (seeing as you quoted me in that post)

And where does it say on KB "Only facts, figures, quotes or statistics please"

Get over yourself, don't take it all so seriously, you're starting to sound like Lou Gerardin......

Getting back to the original question...
What IS the actual policy on pursuit? As it relates to reversing direction to begin chase? After Bridgemen, the IPCA recommended a change to policy, so we know there is some sort of directive regarding U-turns and/or 3-point turns. What is it? And was it altered after Bridgeman, etc?
Please.