Where do you want to see motorcycling heading?

[rwh]

Nothing wrong with your reasoning but

Why not join up with the established organisations and help mould them into the one size fits all organisation that you want. (and maybe what we need)

The established organisations have their history, and BRONZ is by definition a Rights Organisation.

Also note that I'm not really considering stepping up to start such an organisation myself. Call me lazy if you want, but I don't think I'm the right man for the job.

Otherwise all you end up with a whole lot more fractious groups pulling at their own strings to the benefit of nobody. I.E. the status quo!

That is certainly unfortunate.

Admittedly, the AA should be able do it but hey, they "are" the enemy! Maybe you are correct!

They can never be "Those nice motorcycle people", again by definition and history.

Richard

[Swoop]

Thanks. Do you know if they ever got the kind of political clout they were after?

Not really enough to make a difference with the main political parties. They did back Act, since they actually thought out a sensible policy. Tactical voting and all that...

[98tls]

I don't think so, wash your keyboard out with soap. Nah, just curious. Hey ya get dickwads wherever you go. Was at a pissup Saturday and this guy was ranting about how fast he rides his Duke. Whatever..... Anyway, he pulls out his phone and shows us a pic of his near-off. He'd come round a corner too fast and gone on the wrong side of the l/h armco. Knob; why would you boast about shit like that, let alone take pics of the bike many metres up the wrong side of an armco? (And show them at a party ffs!) Got me fucked.

Yea mate,taking the piss.For my money motorcyclings gone to hell compared to back when blah blah,interweb sites do little more than show how bad its got for my money,knowing full well the response the other day i posted up a thread re a guy on another forum i spend shitloads of time on building and mounting a Super charger on a Vtwin from scratch in his shed,i and a few others had a wager on the interest in such a thing which i won easily,far to busy with waving/which helmet/does this Ducati make me look good/my mother hated me so i hate cops/leg humping every new poster that sounds female blah blah blah to be bothered with anything remotely motorcycling i said to be interested in such things.

[Katman]

The established organisations have their history, and BRONZ is by definition a Rights Organisation.

And that is my major stumbling block with BRONZ.

I believe that 'rights' are something that you earn.

[rwh]

I've done some more thinking since last night.

Katman, you're a dealer, right?

I think that dealers probably have more opportunity to influence the situation than anybody else.

You can target your marketing and product range at the kind of people you want to see on motorcycles, and you can also help steer them in what you consider to be a sensible direction.

You probably already cut deals for people who want to buy all their gear with their first bike; do you or could also bundle in riding lessons with your favourite local riding school? You could do it especially for scooter buyers, who probably wouldn't go for lessons otherwise. Point out that once they've done their lessons, it's a small step to getting their BHS, and not much more to get a bike licence. Then you might suggest to them, or their parents, that actually a proper bike might actually be safer than a scooter - especially since it comes with the requirement for a regular safety inspection.

Then for more advanced riders, perhaps do the same thing with advanced training sessions, whether at the track or on the road.

Even better, this should all fit in nicely with improving your own sales

Richard

[Katman]

Katman, you're a dealer, right?

No, not a dealer - I have a repair workshop.

But I still do what I can.

[98tls]

Thats wonderful Richard,perhaps he might offer to look after there cat whilst there away riding as well eh.

[Katman]

Thats wonderful Richard,perhaps he might offer to look after there cat whilst there away riding as well eh.

I love cats but very rarely eat a whole one.

[rwh]

No, not a dealer - I have a repair workshop.

But I still do what I can.

Ah well - substitute 'you' with 'they' then - though probably all in the trade have similar opportunities.

98tls: that would indeed be nice of him, but not really the point I was making. I was aiming for deals that help improve motorcyclists, rather than just make them happy.

Richard

[98tls]

I love cats but very rarely eat a whole one.

A Kat however would be a totally different story.

[98tls]

Ah well - substitute 'you' with 'they' then - though probably all in the trade have similar opportunities.

98tls: that would indeed be nice of him, but not really the point I was making. I was aiming for deals that help improve motorcyclists, rather than just make them happy.

Richard

Motorcyclists being human would moan no matter what deal they got,more so on the interweb.