Operation Centerline

[CookMySock]

hey dickhead, I'm not neccesarily talking about myself...just like the police are not targeting me. they are looking at those that are a danger on our roads.

You mustn't call people names. It's called "thingafying" and it's the final stage before the "decision to hit".

I wasn't talking about you either. I was making an example, that ordinary rationally-thinking adults (including you) can quite safely "cross a centreline" without putting everyone at risk.

My whole point is, if it wasn't glaringly obvious, that cops should concentrate on processing drivers (and other criminals) for horrifically dangerous shit that actually causes someone else consequences, instead of tripping law-abiding citizens up with trivial bullshit that means nothing.

Alright?

Steve

[Ixion]

Another example of the pigs trying to impose their stupid morals on ordinary citizens, for little or no reason other than to suck money out of them.

Perhaps they suggest bikers have no idea how to cross the centreline and return safely? It's not dangerous or against the law to "wander over the centreline for no reason", but hey we can paste them for that!

Yes, it is. Failure to keep left, and failure to drive entirely within a lane, for starters. A really nasty cop could have a try at careless driving, though that might be hard to make stick.

However, I am concerned that the police seem to be trying to extend the law to make ALL overtaking illegal.

[Coldrider]

Double yellow all the way, though it is a single yellow on each side.
Why not use the saddle road instead?, I have corrected in my own lane for trucks crossing the centre of the road, in both cage and bikes.

[Ixion]

What is very interesting about this is that it marks a departure from police policy.

For a number of years it has been policy to concentrate only on the "readily enforceable" offences. Which are defined as seat belts drink driving and speeding. All other offences were ignored or only taken notice of if they were part of a stop for a readily enforceable, or if the offence particularly annoyed an individual copper.

Now we have an official campaign (nnot just individual coppers) focused on other offences.



Perhaps the police themselves are losing faith in the R.A.M.

[Maha]

Double yellow all the way, though it is a single yellow on each side.
Why not use the saddle road instead?, I have corrected in my own lane for trucks crossing the centre of the road, in both cage and bikes.

Exactly!
If what they are doing saves at least one life then its fine by me, that life could be mine at anytime.

[Sentox]

Quick/safe/efficient and....legal? you left out a most critical word.
I just watched the video and I agree with everything that was said.
Is it all double yellow through the Gorge?

That was kind of my point. It's illegal, and safe (when done sensibly). Meaning the now higher chance of getting a ticket without endangering anyone, which I resent. Still, if I get caught, it's my problem. I know the score.

Once upon a time it wasn't double yellows through the gorge. At this rate they might have well just stuck cops up trees in the first place and left the markings alone.

Edit: I'd rather take the Balance bridge onto the Pahiatua track, myself. Nicer ride imo. Assuming PN is your destination anyway.

[rastuscat]

but I have to suck my fucking guts in and shut the fuck up,

Um, so why don't you?

[CookMySock]

Yes, it is. Failure to keep left, and failure to drive entirely within a lane, for starters. A really nasty cop could have a try at careless driving, though that might be hard to make stick.

However, I am concerned that the police seem to be trying to extend the law to make ALL overtaking illegal.

Finally, some logic! My point exactly! The only way to get these idiots to back off is to bash them with something really big.

The main problem I see, is these guys are just angry, willing puppets, that the government can "sik onto" motorists and stand back and collect the revenue. If we point our finger at the cops, they just say "it's the law." If we point our finger at the government, they just say "the police are doing a good job with with they have." It's a cleverly disguised game designed to provide the most possible income to the govt, and there are plenty of willing participants. Even the courts have no say in the matter - it is made perfectly clear in law that you must stay as far as practicable to the left, so they are well within their rights to process 90% of the driving public. You can stand up against them all you like, and they just smirk and throw the book at you, and then run another TV campaign persuading the general public why people who can think for themselves are a danger to all.

Don't ever think you will win it.

Steve

[puddytat]

One thing Im a wondering that concerns us bikers is at what stage do bikers cross the centre line....is it when the wheels cross the centre line or when the riders body crosses the centre line? Big difference I reckon, as I see heaps of folk on bikes down the Buller gorge apexing to early & having to stand the bike up to get thier head outta the way of oncoming traffic...its something that we all should really concentrate on , that is, Late Apexing.
They've also put up new signs down here which state..."Motorcyclists, plan your corners". The missus came up with a good one for that which ammounts to adding another line of text to the sign..."And POlice plan your U Turn."

[Swoop]

Unfortunately, it means no passing in the gorge for a while

FFS Yellow lines mean "do not cross". You can still overtake if sufficient room allows.

Vehicles crossing the centreline are bloody dangerous and if the police are doing something about it, then good on them!

[Squiggles]

I think its a good idea

[sinned]

What the cops are doing is generally what is needed. What is not needed is yellow lines in sections of road where a safe passing maneuver can be made. The Rimutakas are a good example of where some madman with a yellow paint brush was let loose. It won't be long before the yellow will be everywhere and passing will only be legal in designated passing lanes.

[Genie]

hey dickhead, I'm not neccesarily talking about myself...just like the police are not targeting me. they are looking at those that are a danger on our roads.

I must offer my apoligies to the esteemed Mr Dangerous...I should not have resorted to name calling.

[Stirts]

I must offer my apoligies to the esteemed Mr Dangerous...I should not have resorted to name calling.

Since when does calling someone by their first name require an apology? I so confoozed

[schrodingers cat]

I must offer my apoligies to the esteemed Mr Dangerous...I should not have resorted to name calling.

I guess he owes you an aplogy now for the dh call. [smile]