Operation Centerline

[duckonin]

Isn't a speed camera photo "filming without consent"?

Need that for my defense Toaster, trouble is I do not think that it would work..

[Coldrider]

maybe you can get your riding copyrighted.

[R-Soul]

You mustn't call people names. It's called "thingafying" and it's the final stage before the "decision to hit".

I wasn't talking about you either. I was making an example, that ordinary rationally-thinking adults (including you) can quite safely "cross a centreline" without putting everyone at risk.

My whole point is, if it wasn't glaringly obvious, that cops should concentrate on processing drivers (and other criminals) for horrifically dangerous shit that actually causes someone else consequences, instead of tripping law-abiding citizens up with trivial bullshit that means nothing.

Alright?

Steve

Isn't that what they are doing for once? I appluad this! Making people be more attentive and less dangerous. Perfect.

[Coldrider]

Where are the RRRRRRrollers from Central Otago?, this sort of camera blitz happened about two months ago in the Kawerau Gorge between the Gibbston Valley and Cromwell.

[Genie]

Since when does calling someone by their first name require an apology? I so confoozed

sorry for confusing you I didnt' know that was he real name....duh on me for being ignorant

I guess he owes you an aplogy now for the dh call. [smile]

yes well, I must say that the children in my class at school, who are 5 years of age, seem to resort to this 'decision to hit' when they get upset too! Seems hitting is the domain of the very young and senseless.

and really, was this man suggesting that he may decide to hit me...a mere little woman. Well, that would be just disgraceful and justs show his complete and utter disrespect for women and himself.

[scumdog]

Why do we "have to stay in our own lane" ? Whats the point? Do you not have the skills to safely change lanes? Perhaps you need the law to decide for you? No? I did not think so.

Steve

Some do need the law to tell them to stay on their side of the road...I hope you're not one.


And almost nil head-on crashes happen when people stay on the correct side of the road centre.....but the cemeteries have a swag of people that didn't worry about that kind of thing, thought it didn't apply to them - and also sadly there's a swag of said peoples victims in the cemeteries too...

I doubt anybody that 'straightened out a bend' thought "Shit, might have a head-on doing this" - and I bet bugger all got hit by a vehicle they KNEW was heading towrds them, more likely it's a case of "Where the fuck did HE come fro."....bang!

[rastuscat]

I doubt anybody that 'straightened out a bend' thought "Shit, might have a head-on doing this" - and I bet bugger all got hit by a vehicle they KNEW was heading towrds them, more likely it's a case of "Where the fuck did HE come fro."....bang!

That's the issue really.

If you do something often enough with no negative consequence, you begin to believe that it is perfectly safe. Like stop signs, for example. People so rarely stop, and most will not have a crash as a result. As with centrelines. Cut corners "safely" for years, and you'll never be able to understand the reasons for Operation Centreline. You'll also probably never understand how you missed seeing that thing coming the other way.........

Some people have head on crashes as a result of being on the wrong side of the line. I bet none of them ever thought it was going to happen before it did, or they would have prevented it.

What the cops are doing is trying to engender a bit more respect for the centreline, and just maybe it will prevent a head on.

Trouble is, how to you count something that didn't happen? You can never know how effective these things are for sure. You can compare to pre campaign results, but there are so many factors involved, you can never know for sure.

So there.

[swbarnett]

Quick/safe/efficient and....legal? you left out a most critical word.

If you think legal is the most critical thing then you have a lot to learn.

[swbarnett]

Cut corners "safely" for years, and you'll never be able to understand the reasons for Operation Centreline.

What you fail to mention is that there are two ways to Cut corners "safely". There is cutting blindly and just getting away with it and then there is planning ahead and knowing that you have sufficient clear road (because you can see it).

If the police concentrate solely on the former then I can't see anything wrong (besides the fact that I just can't stand being judged - even if the judgement is good). However, I suspect that they will be targeting the latter as well.

[TimeOut]

Where are the RRRRRRrollers from Central Otago?, this sort of camera blitz happened about two months ago in the Kawerau Gorge between the Gibbston Valley and Cromwell.

I don't have a problem with what they are doing there it's on blind corners with yellow lines.

My gripe is where they put the yellow lines, one place through the Cromwell gorge they have double yellows on a straight at least 1km long that is perfectly safe to pass on

[Sentox]

What you fail to mention is that there are two ways to Cut corners "safely". There is cutting blindly and just getting away with it and then there is planning ahead and knowing that you have sufficient clear road (because you can see it).

If the police concentrate solely on the former then I can't see anything wrong (besides the fact that I just can't stand being judged - even if the judgement is good). However, I suspect that they will be targeting the latter as well.

How do you even really tell the difference unless you're inside the driver's head anyway?

[Maha]

If you think legal is the most critical thing then you have a lot to learn.

Always learning masser.
Those that know everything are considered dangerous.

[swbarnett]

How do you even really tell the difference unless you're inside the driver's head anyway?

There are times where it is obvious to an outside observer. There are also times when it is not. My concern is that the police will target people in this grey area "just to be on the safe side". As I've said before in other threads - I'd rather have a murderer on the street than an innocent person in jail.

[swbarnett]

Always learning masser.

Couldn't agree more.

Those that know everything are considered dangerous.

I don't claim to know everything. One thing I do know is that the law is only a guideline when it comes to what is and isn't safe. Usually one is safe when driving within the law but not always, Conversly, driving outside the law is not always unsafe (actually, done with care it's usually not unsafe at all).

[scumdog]

Conversly, driving outside the law is not always unsafe (actually, done with care it's usually not unsafe at all).

Sadly there are too many bozos on the roads that don't know 'done with care' - their thought process doesn't go that far.
(More like "Ah.. better hurry or Maccas will be shut" or "Sharlene will be pissed off if I'm late again" or "Gotta get my 'done soon-as, I'm starting to really hang out" or similar meaningful road safety orientated thoughts)