Death by Boy Racer

[Headbanger]

Two dead and one seriously injured at Whangarei overnight, no KB ranting about that - and I'd put money on it that some form of idiocy by the driver - not an 'accident' that caused this on too.

I see huff3rs point to a certain extent - it seems to me that according to KB posters it's OK for people to be killed on NZ roads unless (a) they are kids and (b) they are killed by a young punk in a fast looking car.

Have I summed up the KB way??

There is a large difference between killing someones child and getting yourself killed.

and to be brutal, I'm ok with people taking themselves out by their fuckwit actions, I just hope they remove themselves before they harm others..

And this applies to boy racers, dicks on bikes, and cops, Fuck it, I don't see anyone claiming bikers are exempt or have the right to kill others, Though apparently thats "often" the case.

Bullshit.

[Katman]

The difference with boy racers is they seem to be a culture that some people aspire too and really want to go out and cause mayhem.

The difference these days is that with the advent of the internet and everyone having mobile phones it is all too easy to gather a large crowd of like minded idiots. They then feed off each others stupidity.

Back in our youth it was probably only 3 or 4 mates gathered by word of mouth.

[scumdog]

There is a large difference between killing someones child and getting yourself killed.

and to be brutal, I'm ok with people taking themselves out by their fuckwit actions, I just hope they remove themselves before they harm others..

And this applies to boy racers, dicks on bikes, and cops, Fuck it, I don't see anyone claiming bikers are exempt or have the right to kill others, Though apparently thats "often" the case.

Bullshit.

So in the Whangarei example it was 'Really Bad' because any way you look at it the driver killed two people and was injured or at best has died and killed one other and injured another??

[Headbanger]

So in the Whangarei example it was 'Really Bad' because any way you look at it the driver killed two people and was injured or at best has died and killed one other and injured another??

They all made the decision to get into the car, and they were old enough to take responsibility for themselves.


The child who was mowed down did not have any say in his fate or the events leading up to it, and should have been safe walking up the footpath with his mum.

[meteor]

Wow some people are getting antsy! Yes, a kid died, that is a terrible tragedy. But...

...Little white trash boy racer's car fishtailing down the road in the wet kills child.... there's no BUT!

And now Mum has jumped into the fray and said her little Johnny's not a boy racer.... Whatever!

Some parent's don't get it, being a mother or father has duties and responsibilities, being supportive is just one of those. Damn I forgot this is the rant n rave forum..

Huff3r... if you're going to try the hippies Utopian group therapy approach you're in the wrong place.... Not at all in the KB lynch mob spirit...

[Woodman]

The difference these days is that with the advent of the internet and everyone having mobile phones it is all too easy to gather a large crowd of like minded idiots. They then feed off each others stupidity.

Back in our youth it was probably only 3 or 4 mates gathered by word of mouth.

na it wasn't even that, usually just random skids coming home from thepub/footy club wherever. Maybe they should make rugger compusory again lol.

I deal with a fair few car enthusiasts on a daily basis, and you can tell the serial boy racers apart. They are generally the anaemic, skinny, pimple squeezing twats who try to talk like gangsters. The " conversations " I hear them having almost make me cry with laughter, its very hard not to take the piss.

[FROSTY:Me]

Ya know what I'm seeing is a bunch of media hype that frankly sucks. Untill such time as CSI have actually pieced together what happened then I'd suggest that people stop beating chests.
How many of you have been to that intersection in the wet? How many of you have driven a skyline in slippery conditions? I can tell you from personal experience things get very messy very fast --and that was driving with caution. Im not saying he wasn't driving like a F...wit but untill you know for sure then why not mourn a tragic accident.

[PrincessBandit]

Woodman, you took the words right out of my mouth. "Let he who is without sin...." and all that.
Looking back on my youth (yes, I was one back when dinosaurs roamed the earth) even I did things that there but for the grace of God (yes, that is my interpretation of it, others can use whichever they feel more comfortable with) which could easily have ended up in tragedy for someone else.

Who on here has never run a red light (even accidentally), backed out of a driveway without first scrupulously ensuring that there are no kids around, rushed through an intersection or even slid through an intersection in poor weather, I could go on....... but they were lucky enough that the other vehicle in the proximilty happened to be only a few seconds either side of being collected by your vehicle.

C'mon people. Yes, I am a mother. Yes my heart is broken for this poor woman. But as for the young driver, lets see first of all whether it's proven that he's a serial punkass dickhead driver, or whether he has copped the shit moment on the road, which any one of us could have faced in our lives, before hanging and quartering him.

[Kickaha]

But as for the young driver, lets see first of all whether it's proven that he's a serial punkass dickhead driver, or whether he has copped the shit moment on the road, which any one of us could have faced in our lives, before hanging and quartering him.

That isn't the "KB way"

[Headbanger]

Ya know what I'm seeing is a bunch of media hype that frankly sucks. Untill such time as CSI have actually pieced together what happened then I'd suggest that people stop beating chests.
How many of you have been to that intersection in the wet? How many of you have driven a skyline in slippery conditions? I can tell you from personal experience things get very messy very fast --and that was driving with caution. Im not saying he wasn't driving like a F...wit but untill you know for sure then why not mourn a tragic accident.

Incident.

I have driven our skyline in the wet hundreds of times, so far I haven't mowed down any children.

But I guarantee if I did it would be my fault and not the cars.

[FROSTY:Me]

Incident.

I have driven our skyline in the wet hundreds of times, so far I haven't mowed down any children.

But I guarantee if I did it would be my fault and not the cars.

Never for a moment nwould I suggest otherwise but theres a huge difference between an accident and a deliberate act.
Frankly if the whole drift thing was deliberate I have no sympathy at all for him. But if it was a momentary error in judgement that turned really ugly really fast then its something that could and if we are all honest with ourselves HAS happened to us at some point in our driving/riding history. (right up to the killing an innocent victim point)
How many threads on kb about rider down or "idiot car driver did this or that are there??
Are our memories so bad that we ignore the lesson that two bloody fantastic riders taught us??

[FROSTY:Me]

Guys n gals theres a reason Im suggesting WE as motorcyclists need to be very carefull what we say. If we join in the catchcry "burn the boyracers" and the gubbiment bans kids from "fast" cars then who's the next easy target? NO UNDER 25 YEAR OLDS ON BIKES OVER 500cc maybee.

[schrodingers cat]

How many of you have driven a skyline in slippery conditions? I can tell you from personal experience things get very messy very fast --and that was driving with caution.

If you can't crontrol yourself in a road car perhaps you need to take the bus FFS

and to be brutal, I'm ok with people taking themselves out by their fuckwit actions, I just hope they remove themselves before they harm others..

Damn straight. I'll hold their jacket even

[scumdog]

They all made the decision to get into the car, and they were old enough to take responsibility for themselves..

Whew, that makes it WAAY better thank goodness, that explains why there was no comment on this site about that particular crash...

[Coldrider]

Whew, that makes it WAAY better thank goodness, that explains why there was no comment on this site about that particular crash...

Nor the ten year old child that was killed in a two car coliision on the Hibiscus Coast.