Should people ask for donations from strangers on KB?

[yungatart]

I remember back when fund-raising involved people getting off their arse and doing something for the money they received. Collecting bottles, chopping firewood, washing cars..............

My, how times have changed.

We did all that too! Plus head shaves and Zac catered small dinner parties etc as well as worked two jobs and managed his school work and extra curricular activities too.
He sold his bike and his car, both of which he had worked bloody hard to get in the first place.
Nowhere did I state that he/we sat around on arses and expected KB to pay for his entire trip. Stop being such a misguided pedant!

[Katman]

He sold his bike and his car, both of which he had worked bloody hard to get in the first place.

See, now we're getting somewhere.

[RiderInBlack]

See, now we're getting somewhere.

Are We Really? Do you really think ya have made a point? Do you really know what efforts and sacrifices Dan's family have made already? I don't, and I don't ASS-U-ME whether they have made any or not. I do know that they haven't been idly sitting on their arses with their hands out though. Have ya any idea as to what Dan's death has cost this family already?
So do ya really think ya have made ya point yet, or are ya starting to realise that maybe ya have done this family a great injustice, but am unable to admit that you may have been wrong

[imdying]

(Hey, you knew it was going to be done).

Me? I would sell everything I owned before asking strangers for money.

They are no more or less entitled to do that, than you are to question, in the same thread, whether it should or shouldn't be.

You can't utilise a public discussion forum like that without expecting discussion, and you sure as fuck can't demand that the discussion all be rainbows and lollipops.

[T.W.R]

I don't know.

Let me go ask the others.

lol that's D.I.D

But Schizophrenia sounds about on the mark:

Schizophrenia (pronounced /ˌskɪtsɵˈfrɛniə/ or /ˌskɪtsɵˈfriːniə/) is a mental disorder characterized by abnormalities in the perception or expression of reality. It most commonly manifests as auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions

[davereid]

If this thread had been headed clearly I would never have even opened it!

I made the same error... I assumed it was a general topic. I never realised it was about particular individuals.

[RiderInBlack]

To imdying Re: black text....
I did that on purpose to differentiate between what I was quoting from what another had written from my comments. Anyone that knows me at all on this site will know I only post in Comic Sans MS in this blue colour. It's just what I do. Is it the colour change ya can't handle or the black or are ya just repíng for the hell of it? Maybe ya one of the Dark Universers, in which case I should have chosen WHITE , but then I couldn't see that in the Light Universe. There doesn't seem ta be an auto default Font colour choice button.

[imdying]

I know and I don't care. Anyone who uses colours that don't work with a black background gets rep from me, not every time but enough to, as the rep box says, express my 'disapproval'. It's just what I do. I also rep people bitcing about rep, so expect some more.

The quote tags are quite capable of differentiating your text from other peoples, or at least 99.99% of the foum seems to do ok using them.

[PrincessBandit]

They are no more or less entitled to do that, than you are to question, in the same thread, whether it should or shouldn't be.

You can't utilise a public discussion forum like that without expecting discussion, and you sure as fuck can't demand that the discussion all be rainbows and lollipops.

At least in this separate thread, the question (which obviously was seen as extremely bad form in the "other" thread) can be asked with frank and open discussion. It is quite irrelevant whether it was aimed at anyone in particular - or not, as the case might even be - people will judge it by their own interpretation of recent events. At least the discussion and debate can be continued in another arena where people can be free to express their opinions about the topic without being punished for offending someone or upsetting others.

[Katman]

At least in this separate thread, the question (which obviously was seen as extremely bad form in the "other" thread) can be asked with frank and open discussion. It is quite irrelevant whether it was aimed at anyone in particular - or not, as the case might even be - people will judge it by their own interpretation of recent events. At least the discussion and debate can be continued in another arena where people can be free to express their opinions about the topic without being punished for offending someone or upsetting others.

But the paradox is that 'certain people' will still read this thread and allow themselves to get upset by it.

That's the thing about internet forums. If you're too fragile to cope with them you're better off finding support elsewhere.

[RiderInBlack]

I also rep people bitcing about rep, so expect some more.

Sweet I will look forward to some more Red. I was getting sick of green any way. Another fun thing to do when ya bored is Use the Green Positive Rep but leave negative comment. An oldie but a goodie. I found that really amusing when someone gave me that one, LOL. Have even had a positive comment from a Red Negative rep. Now that was quite imaginative By the way, would it not have been better to PM to let me know that Ya couldn't see what I had written (I had no idea until ya rep'ed, and even then it has taken a bit of playing around to work out what may have been the problem). Ya might have found that I would have apologised and gone back to correct it. Now I know what has cause ya problem, I will go back to the post and fix it.

[imdying]

I will go back to the post and fix it.

result == win, issue is no bigger than that imho.

[RiderInBlack]

But the paradox is that 'certain people' will still read this thread and allow themselves to get upset by it.

As will "certain other people" pretend to be generalising as a way to get at "certain people". It's a very old thing "certain people" do to be harmful and spiteful while pretending that they are not. They do this because they know if they opening said what they really mean, poeple wouldn't like them anymore and get to know them for who they really are. The thing is there are many "certain other people" that are not fooled by this at all, and tend to say as much.

[Katman]

As will "certain other people" pretend to be generalising as a way to get at "certain people". It's a very old thing "certain people" do to be harmful and spiteful while pretending that they are not. They do this because they know if they opening said what they really mean, poeple wouldn't like them anymore and get to know them for who they really are. The thing is the are many "certain other people" that are not fooled by this at all, and tend to say as much.

I don't come on this forum to make friends. If friends come from it - well and good.

But you'd have to be rather sad to set about aiming to gain friends simply from written words on a computer screen.

And I'm sure most people realise this thread is in response to an actual incident. I'm not trying to disguise anything.

[RiderInBlack]

I don't come on this forum to make friends.

Then obviously you are achieving ya gaol of not having friends really well, but I am sure ya could try a little harder.
So may I ask why you really joined Kiwi Biker in the first place? The real truth. And makes ya want to stay here now? What do ya really want out of this Forum?