Why are cops beating speeding motorcyclists?

[marty]

Answer to the OP:

Cause some of you (that's the great unwashed in general) are fuckwits. Some fuckwits ride bikes.

funniest thing I've seen is someone doing an runner on a Harley (when dressed like a gang rapist funnily enough but wearing a full-face helmet), falling off at about 20km/h, then after fighting with him for about a minute, his visor mysteriously opened, a can of pepper spray was somehow discharged into said open visor, then the visor was closed.

In the ensueing screaming/crying for mummy/whimpering 5 minutes, a loaded 9mm pistol was recovered from a shoulder holster, which was what the gang rapist was trying to access during the 60 second struggle....

[miloking]

Answer to the OP:

Cause some of you (that's the great unwashed in general) are fuckwits. Some fuckwits ride bikes.

funniest thing I've seen is someone doing an runner on a Harley (when dressed like a gang rapist funnily enough but wearing a full-face helmet), falling off at about 20km/h, then after fighting with him for about a minute, his visor mysteriously opened, a can of pepper spray was somehow discharged into said open visor, then the visor was closed.

In the ensueing screaming/crying for mummy/whimpering 5 minutes, a loaded 9mm pistol was recovered from a shoulder holster, which was what the gang rapist was trying to access during the 60 second struggle....

Yeah sure, someone resisting arrest getting hurt is one thing...police brutality is another!

But that is a funny story indeed i bet he wont be riding harley for while...also wonder where did gang rapist got the pistol, i though they are illegal to own in NZ?? (unless kept inside the safe at local gun club etc.)

[Ixion]

..would rather they policed in AREAS that are more dangerous rather than areas that are likely to render more income, i.e. a flat straight dual carriage way is an area of lower risk compared to a double yellowed blind corner with a cliff down one side.

To give credit where credit is due I think their campaign to catch people who stray onto the wrong side was really good and time/resources well spent as there is nothing that scares me more no matter whether I am a driver or a passenger in any vehicle.

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Hm. I understand where you are coming from, but I'm not so sure about the reality. I've often seen places where accidents have occurred (the crosses give them away) and thought "How could anyone stuff things up on this bit of road?". I suspect the people who crash because they are idiots tend to do so exactly on those "lower risk" areas - because they perceive them as "safe" and start doing stupid shit. Whereas in areas manifestly dangerous they crawl along very slowly. Like the people (probably the same ones) who crawl onward at 80kph, until they reach a passing lane. Whereupon they speed up to 100kph.

IMHO at least 80% of crashes are caused by "people doing stupid shit" (yes, bikers too). And people who do stupid shit tend to do it more or less anywhere.

Obvious answer, find a way to dissuade people from doing stupid shit. Not easy that, though.

[Ixion]

Yeah sure, someone resisting arrest getting hurt is one thing...police brutality is another!

But that is a funny story indeed i bet he wont be riding harley for while...also wonder where did gang rapist got the pistol, i though they are illegal to own in NZ?? (unless kept inside the safe at local gun club etc.)

Oh, goodness me, I'm certain a wouldbe gangsta would never do anything illegal. Pity the pistol didn't "accidentally go off" whilst still in his pocket.

[Rogue Rider]

as I said before, Policing should be seperated like it was in the old days with MOT (Ministry Of Transport) The black and whites as they were did an awesome job, they were polite, sociable and good educators. I guess the problem was that then the focus was driver education, now days it's all about ticket quota's and the competition "who is the biggest cock" award. Pretty much every traffic officer I have met fits the bill and rates high on the scale........ Wonder who has the personalised plate H8PIGS lol

[Ixion]

as I said before, Policing should be seperated like it was in the old days with MOT (Ministry Of Transport) The black and whites as they were did an awesome job, they were polite, sociable and good educators. I guess the problem was that then the focus was driver education, now days it's all about ticket quota's and the competition "who is the biggest cock" award. Pretty much every traffic officer I have met fits the bill and rates high on the scale........ Wonder who has the personalised plate H8PIGS lol

Well, no, a lot of them were nit-picking cunts. But, the bikie snakes, some of them were good. Our local one spent a lot of time with us young chaps, basically teaching us how to ride safely. He was a GOOD cunt.

Mind you, he didn't take any prisoners either, if you didn't take notice of what he told you, he'd get out his bottomless ticket book. A few mates had a bad time with him, but I always found him good value. I suspect that I'm probably alive today in no small measure to him.

You'd never get the cops nowadays spending time with young riders teaching them how to ride safely.

[jahrasti]

Yeah sure, someone resisting arrest getting hurt is one thing...police brutality is another!

But that is a funny story indeed i bet he wont be riding harley for while...also wonder where did gang rapist got the pistol, i though they are illegal to own in NZ?? (unless kept inside the safe at local gun club etc.)

Fuck me the the great Miloking is spouting gospel again. No not illegal to own one (has restrictions though), and no does not have to be kept at the local gun club.

Carry on though, your comments seem to make me want to post on KB so I thank you for that.

[marty]

i had a best friend who father was an MOT cop. he was an arsehole. gave me a huge bollocking for riding my go cart around on the front lawn and infringing on about 1 metre of footpath.

he then gave me a ticket for having a headlight out in my Ford Pop - no diversion - $75. I'm still dark on that!

I used to take learner drivers to Taupo for a day on the track - I picked them by giving them tickets, then 28 days to get their restricted - if they did, and were good kids, I organised a track day for them (old Taupo track) in their own cars. took about 30 kids through it.

[marty]

Yeah sure, someone resisting arrest getting hurt is one thing...police brutality is another!

But that is a funny story indeed i bet he wont be riding harley for while...also wonder where did gang rapist got the pistol, i though they are illegal to own in NZ?? (unless kept inside the safe at local gun club etc.)

so is pepper spray in the helmet brutality or justified for resisting? - it wasn't known that he had a gun.

and why wouldn't he be back on the Harley? it's not like the courts are going to lock him away, and meth buys bikes real fast. get your head out of the sand - i expect 'most' patched gang members are these days carrying some sort of weapon that could easily kill.

[flyingcrocodile46]

i had a best friend who father was an MOT cop. he was an arsehole. gave me a huge bollocking for riding my go cart around on the front lawn and infringing on about 1 metre of footpath.

he then gave me a ticket for having a headlight out in my Ford Pop - no diversion - $75. I'm still dark on that!

I used to take learner drivers to Taupo for a day on the track - I picked them by giving them tickets, then 28 days to get their restricted - if they did, and were good kids, I organised a track day for them (old Taupo track) in their own cars. took about 30 kids through it.

Good shit Marty. It would be good to see and hear more of the good (above and beyond) stuff some of you guys do in the community. It might help balance the perspective of those of us who see so little of the good and so much of the bad in today's police.

How bout the KB filth starting a thread where they can skite about the good shit they do on a daily basis. ??

It would be an opportunity to balance the media coverage (slanted toward the bad and sensational) the force get. Who knows, you might even get the chance to skite about letting Joe public off a speeding fine one day (only after your quota is met of course).

[marty]

i left 6 years this month. too many suicides, shaken babies and fatal MVAs, and i could never guarantee my family that my shift wan't going to end in hospital or the fridge.

[scumdog]

i left 6 years this month. too many suicides, shaken babies and fatal MVAs, and i could never guarantee my family that my shift wan't going to end in hospital or the fridge.

It does take its toll.

But as some on this site say "You chose to do the job"

A shame a few of THEM didn't step up to the line and show people like me how to do the job, 100% correct and without upsetting any sector of society...

[marty]

yup i did. and i am proud of my contribution. it was time for me to go though. i occasionally regret it, but i chose to take another path, and now i am on that one.

[miloking]

Fuck me the the great Miloking is spouting gospel again. No not illegal to own one (has restrictions though), and no does not have to be kept at the local gun club.

Carry on though, your comments seem to make me want to post on KB so I thank you for that.

Well thank you for the clarification, i never claimed ALL my posts to be factual especialy if they end with question mark

Also it seems that only small group of clowns has a problem with my posts...probably because they dont like to accept the reality...you could be one of them, i leave that up to you.

[miloking]

so is pepper spray in the helmet brutality or justified for resisting? - it wasn't known that he had a gun.

and why wouldn't he be back on the Harley? it's not like the courts are going to lock him away, and meth buys bikes real fast. get your head out of the sand - i expect 'most' patched gang members are these days carrying some sort of weapon that could easily kill.

If he is resisting arrest after being told he is "under arrest" yeah spray the fucker...but i dont think, you should knock someone off their bike, jump out of the holden and empty can of pepper into their face just because they were speeding while looking "dodgey"...iam certain that 95% policemen know that...iam worried about the other 5% though!