Hardcore Biker
In the article they reference the road toll for the area since introducing their policy, this is dramatically down and that really is the only quantifiable result. However is that because of stricter enforcement or greater presence meaning drivers in the area pay much more attention to their surroundings.Originally Posted by DangerousBastard
Don't judge me based upon your ignorance.
The instructions are simple...
One year compared to the next means nothing. None of us are fooled. It takes many years to show a trend. And trends are where it's at. Not anomolies.
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
In the riders seat
You might say that, however it doesn't mean you are right or vice versa
"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."
dodgy is as dodgy does
I don't claim to be "right" about anything beyond a belief that trying to link an 800% decrease in fatalities to a minor tweaking of speed tolerance is disingenuous at best. Our Masters tell us that speed is a factor in 30% of crashes, so if they're right and our admirably zealous cuntstables managed to stop everyone from speeding, all you'd see is a 30% decrease. Any statistician who tried to identify a causal relationship with such limited data would be laughed at.
Basically he's talking shit.
Don't blame me, I voted Green.
dodgy is as dodgy does
What he said.
Don't blame me, I voted Green.
In the riders seat
So if they continue with their enforcement and the fatality rate stays low over the 2-3 years will he still have been talking shit?
"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."
dodgy is as dodgy does
Probably. Given the tolerance decrease is only 5 kmh, and that even Our Masters only claim that 30% of crashes are caused by speed (which is not entirely true), that the sample size is so small, that crashes rarely have one single cause; yes he's talking shit. You will need to take into account every variable, measure their relationships with each other and measure the proportionality of their influence on each other before you will be able to attribute such a minor tweak to anything.
Kind of like saying "my bike will be much faster if I fit Harris Pipes", but not taking into account cams, breathing, fuelling etc, and how each influences the other.
Don't blame me, I voted Green.
Hardcore Biker
Total 'propaganda' bullshit. can they prove that facts relate emphatically to the 5ks over 100k's no they cannot, heaps of other variables are present..
In the riders seat
Can you prove otherwise?
"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."
Forum whore
He doesn't need to. He ain't the one making bullshit claims.
It pisses me off when people argue statistics are the be all to end all when clearly they have no fucking clue. It causes lapses in my concentration when I am pulling 100 mile monos on my Goldwing
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Hardcore Biker
Can u prove I am wrong?
In the riders seat
Now I know you're talking as much bullshit as him, everyone knows shafties can't wheelie
Didn't claim I could, can you prove you're right no? didn't think so, of course motorcyclists wouldn't talk as much bullshit or try and use statstics that were incorrect or misleading would they
"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."
The instructions are simple...
The problem with statistics is that anyone can make them say anything. At least to a large extent. When an argument is 'supported' by the use of statistics, then the only counter weapon is use of the same...
Didn't claim I could, can you prove you're right no? didn't think so, of course motorcyclists wouldn't talk as much bullshit or try and use statstics that were incorrect or misleading would they
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
Loud and Uncouth
It's KB - you can post any shit you want without proving it!
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I commute from Taupo till about 10 minutes before Turangi every day. Lately I've seen a cop pretty much every time I have been on that road. It has helped me keep my speed down especially as I got clocked at 123 the other day and got 35 demerits and a $170 fine :P
Even though the road itself has improved, it is the idiots driving on the road that make it unsafe. The amount of times I've nearly been collected in a head on by stupid pricks coming the other way wanting to overtake without giving themselves enough clear space is crazy.
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