Why are cops beating speeding motorcyclists?

[caseye]

I knew it was going to be GOOD! but I didn't count on you being you and making him think very seriously about his carreer choices. well put mate.

[flyingcrocodile46]

I knew it was going to be GOOD! but I didn't count on you being you and making him think very seriously about his carreer choices. well put mate.

Cheers mate! A good parent has to be a good liar... though I have watched Serpico and got a few speeding tickets

[flyingcrocodile46]

Gp, gp, gp, gp

[marty]

although i agree with your objective, i'm not sure i agree with its delivery. i maybe have a different perspective and way of describing the issues to my 18 year old who considered the police.

i think you have probably put him off (your obvious objective) but i hope you haven't sowed the seed of 'all cops are extorting raping cunts cause my dad says so so i'm not going to respect them' in him.

[Katman]

and that some people (me included to a degree) would look down on him because of what he did for a job.

What sort of father are you?

[flyingcrocodile46]

What sort of father are you?

I didn't say (me included to a degree) to him (that was for you)

[flyingcrocodile46]

although i agree with your objective, i'm not sure i agree with its delivery. i maybe have a different perspective and way of describing the issues to my 18 year old who considered the police.

i think you have probably put him off (your obvious objective) but i hope you haven't sowed the seed of 'all cops are extorting raping cunts cause my dad says so so i'm not going to respect them' in him.

I don't think I've soured him toward cops so much as made him a little more aware that things aren't as black and white as he may think. I don't think it's a good idea for any teenager to be considering a Police career without having had at least a couple of years work and life (away from home/OE) experience.

[Katman]

I didn't say (me included to a degree) to him (that was for you)

It makes no difference whether you said it to him or to us.

The fact that you'd look down on your son if he chose to became a police officer speaks volumes about you.

[flyingcrocodile46]

It makes no difference whether you said it to him or to us.

The fact that you'd look down on your son if he chose to became a police officer speaks volumes about you.

I sense that it is rather pointless telling you that you are interpreting my post a little differently to the way it was intended. At least my son was smart enough to understand that I was referring to police (in that context) rather than him specifically, but then he isn't a nit picking retard so I wouldn't expect any less from him.

[scumdog]

Meh, if my father had given me that advice it would have made me all the more determined to do the job.

I was waiting for you to tell him more about the highs of the job, you knew enough about the lows but sadly no, it was mainly '10 zillion reasons not be a cop'

So why is he not wanting to follow in your footsteps then, what job do you have that is so much better than being a cop??...

[marty]

one that shouldn't be surprised when his son calls him and says ' hey dad i'm off to Police College next week - see ya'

[marty]

that's not how it read.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Meh, if my father had given me that advice it would have made me all the more determined to do the job.

I was waiting for you to tell him more about the highs of the job, you knew enough about the lows but sadly no, it was mainly '10 zillion reasons not be a cop'

Being a teenager he has a pretty simplistic and romantic view point of life. He hasn't met the types of people I have. He has gone to good schools where nice people send their nice children. When/where I grew up, assaults at school were a daily occurrence as was exposure to people who (true to form) turned out very very bad. Assaults in his schools have been very very rare.

I have met a lot of very bad people (some socially but the worst through work) and have had to deal with/to them (two later murdered people in Akld on separate occasions). He hasn't got ANY experience with bad people. He is naive and although well qualified to look after himself physically he doesn't have the mind set to assure survival in very bad situations.

Most of my intent when talking to him was to balance the stupid fucking 'better work stories' adverts that were popular at the time by giving him a glimpse of some of the shitty side of the career. BTW how come I haven't seen Clint Rickard and co telling theirs? You could likely get Vaseline sponsorship for their work stories.

As I said, I offered to introduce him to a proper Policeman (a good cunt) for another perspective. If I truly wanted to kill off his aspirations completely I wouldn't have done so.

Truth is, it wouldn't have mattered what career he told me he was considering, I would have made sure that he was aware of all the negatives. His own heart has told him the most valid positives about the Policing

So why is he not wanting to follow in your footsteps then, what job do you have that is so much better than being a cop??...

Because I have told him it ain't a great career, that it takes too long to climb to the top of the heap, that the risks outweigh the rewards.... oh yeah! and a lack of romantic advertising that hints at superiority.

one that shouldn't be surprised when his son calls him and says ' hey dad i'm off to Police College next week - see ya'

Tell ya what I wouldn't be if he told me that..... Concerned that he was making a poorly informed decision. In point of fact I would be a lot more comfortable with his decision now I know that he has all the FACTS. You can't say I lied to him because it's all true. If your own experiences are different it doesn't make the experiences of others a lie. Open your fucking eyes to other peoples perspectives without discounting their experiences as invalid because they don't align with yours. Some have been so badly treated by some Police that they justifiably hate them. Don't blame them. Blame the fucking low life scum who made them that way.... yes the ones in uniforms cause despite all your protests that they are only a small minority they are not. Police culture is shocking. Clean up your fucking act if you want a better image with Joe public and stop whining about the realists who are telling it how it is.

[scumdog]

Police culture is shocking. Clean up your fucking act if you want a better image with Joe public and stop whining about the realists who are telling it how it is.

Hmmm, I must be in a different country - thank goodness I'm not sharing yours.

And your job is?

[Katman]

I sense that it is rather pointless telling you that you are interpreting my post a little differently to the way it was intended. At least my son was smart enough to understand that I was referring to police (in that context) rather than him specifically, but then he isn't a nit picking retard so I wouldn't expect any less from him.

So you know him better than any of us.

Is he the sort of person who would make a good cop (one you could look up to) or a bad cop (one you'd look down on)?