Chinese not like greens..

**888mike** · 23rd June 2010, 13:35

Who gives a toss about a whiny greeny or tibet, we have enough shit to sort in our own back yard we can't do anything about the biggest country in the world by waving a stupid flag you tosser.

**spacemonkey** · 23rd June 2010, 18:40

lol attempt to fly reactionary flag fails.

**cowpoos** · 23rd June 2010, 21:58

Originally Posted by spacemonkey

lol attempt to fly reactionary flag fails.

Errr??? thats not funny?

**spacemonkey** · 24th June 2010, 08:03

*shrugs* Is to me.

**shrub** · 24th June 2010, 09:31

I am perplexed as to why the Chinese are suddenly seen as such wonderful people by a few people here. Is it because they're an oppressive regime? Or maybe because they are a major cause of greenhouse gas emissions? Because they're communists? Because they will own us in the future? Or simply because the Green party has clashed with them?

If it was 1938 and Russell Norman had protested against a visit by Rudolf Hess on an official Nazi trip, would Norman still receive the tirade of abuse?

**spacemonkey** · 24th June 2010, 09:35

Given the level of anti semitisim that was prevalent world wide back then, quite probably.

**MisterD** · 24th June 2010, 09:36

Originally Posted by shrub

If it was 1938 and Russell Norman had protested against a visit by Rudolf Hess on an official Nazi trip, would Norman still receive the tirade of abuse?

If he was acting like a dick of a student protester rather than upholding the responsibilities of his position, then yes. As many others have pointed out - compare Russ' stunt with the dignified behaviour of Rod Donald.

**shrub** · 24th June 2010, 09:41

Originally Posted by MisterD

If he was acting like a dick of a student protester rather than upholding the responsibilities of his position, then yes. As many others have pointed out - compare Russ' stunt with the dignified behaviour of Rod Donald.

Interesting. I remember Rod Donald copping at least as much flack in his day. And if behaving with dignity was a reuirement for political office there would be about 10 people in parliament.

**MisterD** · 24th June 2010, 10:10

Originally Posted by shrub

Interesting.

I don't actually see much criticism of Russel's views on Tibet here, it's all about how he went about creating a gratuitous publicity stunt. Perhaps you're just conditioned to the general ridicule their usual loony-tunes policies receive that that point hadn't registered?

**shrub** · 24th June 2010, 10:25

Originally Posted by MisterD

I don't actually see much criticism of Russel's views on Tibet here, it's all about how he went about creating a gratuitous publicity stunt. Perhaps you're just conditioned to the general ridicule their usual loony-tunes policies receive that that point hadn't registered?

You may be right, and while it seems that there are a few people who have citicised him for saying "give me my flag" in a wimpy way, and a few who think it's just not cool for an MP tp protest (he'd be much better taking his partner on a trip), at least as many of the comments I have seen here and on other sites simply criticise him for standing up to China. I think no matter what he would have done he would have been criticised for doing it because a lot of people have an almost pathological hatred of the greens; usually with no real foundation.

**888mike** · 24th June 2010, 12:59

Gees shrub sounds like you are a wild tree hugger but i wont hold that against you, I love trees too they keep me warm at night lol.
"I love to burn tyres and trees" yee haa an im a red neck.

**mr_penguin** · 24th June 2010, 13:21

Yeah yeah tree's good chop em down dry them out and mil them pump in the toxic's and build houses out of them !

Keeps kiwi's employed and there not chinese made but we can hang a new zealand flag on them!

**BoristheBiter** · 24th June 2010, 14:48

Originally Posted by 888mike

Gees shrub sounds like you are a wild tree hugger but i wont hold that against you, I love trees too they keep me warm at night lol.
"I love to burn tyres and trees" yee haa an im a red neck.

What Like "white by birth, trash by choice"

**Winston001** · 24th June 2010, 15:29

Originally Posted by marty

With the hindsight of video and stills it is easy to make decisions. An unknown person coming towards a diplomat in a somewhat aggressive or intentional manner is going to get his arse kicked forthwith. No question.

Pre-emptive strike is a legitimate defence.

What he said. Diplomats at a high level have their own protection details and those guys act immediately. No messing around. You may recall President Regan was shot when his detail let the crowd too close. All the Chinese security guards would have seen was a man moving towards their guy - so they stopped him - and removed his flag which might have been cover for something else. They wouldn't know it was a Member of Parliament.

There are far more important things going on in NZ and the world than this petty issue.