Are we TOTALLY invisible?

[Dave Lobster]

You just have to be, please tell me your post was riddled in sarcasm

I don't think I've posted anything here, ever, that hasn't been.

[Mom]

I am invisible. No joking, I am. There are only a select few that can see me, they are few and far between. The rest I throw a smoke screen up and pray my essence is visible in the haze. Some days I wish I could find a denser fog

[Mully]

Yes, you are totally invisible. Never forget it and always ride like it.

Bingo. And you'll stay alive much longer if you ride like that too.

[Katman]

so true: 80% of bike accident caused by "oh sorry, didn't see you..."
actual statistic.
keep that in mind.

Bullshit.

[That looks like fun]

I drive a big trucky thing with lights and trailers and big tooty airhorn things and all three people who have run into the side of said beasty have all said "sorry" . Oh yeah and that they didnt see me.
If they cant see a truck they sure as hell wont see a bike. I like the advice to ride like you are invisible. (except for the ladies changing room part)
For the record I only need a Subaru and a Honda and I have collected a full set of jap cars

[rastuscat]

The viz issue is what Dr Charley identified as the big issue.

He went on to talk about how we can increase our own visibility, or wait for everyone else to improve their vision.

Seeing you isn't about eyes, it's about perception and the minds ability to accept what it has been presented with by the eyes, and how that fits in with the normal perceptions of the receptors.

Cringe, did I just write that?

Bollocks, it's everyone elses fault, they're all homocidal maniacs and I'm the best rider in the world.

So there.

[caseye]

Only reply is, glad you! had your! wits about YOu and didn't get tangled up with any of them, yes this is the norm and yes they don't see you.
I still maintain that mostly they do see you, they just don;t equate you as a big enough threat and so they go/pull out anyhow.
Ride like everyone else out there is hell bent on killing you, including and while I hate to say this, it's happened to me more than once in the lat year or two other motorcycle riders.

[Dare]

If we are invisible anyway we may aswell start riding these.

[Big Dave]

The viz issue is what Dr Charley identified as the big issue.

My 'concern' is that the source data is flawed.

This is what I know. Several close calls I've had involving a vehicle failing to give way have avoided being collisions because I was looking directly at the driver. On a two such occasions the driver stopped to apologise and I politely accepted their 'Sorry - I didn't see you' word for word and moved on.

The issue is that they didn't see me because they didn't even look. There was no chance of visual because their eyes never were cast my way.

'I didn't see him' makes a whole lot better and more blame free story to an investigating police officer or insurance company than - 'well I'm just such an inattentive dipstick or I was so busy tuning the radio and fucked up'.

[scumdog]

Yes, you are totally invisible. Never forget it and always ride like it.

Dang right - and always expect them to react like you wouldn't expect them to react.


If they react.

[Dave Lobster]

Dang right - and always expect them to react like you wouldn't expect them to react.

Other than choking, what reaction do people have to a gloved fist crushing their windpipe?

[scumdog]

Other than choking, what reaction do people have to a gloved fist crushing their windpipe?

Dunno, it's hard to do while lying on the road with a banged-up bike on top of you....

[Big Dave]

I don't think I've posted anything here, ever, that hasn't been.

Funnily enough I was going to mention you have been at 'dripping point' lately - in another thread!

I think it's time to get cynical before moving on to bitter :-P

[Bren]

Dang right - and always expect them to react like you wouldn't expect them to react.


If they react.

Well the choking option might prove a bit drastic, but I have often been tempted to put a boot in their door as I go past whilst negotiating an emergency manouveur...How would the law relate to that???

[blackdog]

Well the choking option might prove a bit drastic, but I have often been tempted to put a boot in their door as I go past whilst negotiating an emergency manouveur...How would the law relate to that???

dunno, but currently my toe slider is sporting a nice rav4 blue, a touch of olive from a terrano, and a big streak of cock in a holden SS (and didn't see you) red....