L Plates are dangerous

[=cJ=]

Its up to you Neshi.

It's very visible in the location I have suggested, its just not visible to tail-gaters.

But don't whinge on here if you crash and get declined insurance because you crashed into a lawyer who knew you were technically unlicensed.

I'm not sure that would swing.

http://www.legislation.co.nz/act/pub...html#DLM442558

Insurance reform act 1977 might get you clear.

[putput]

nah the 400 is a new...was riding a hyo 250 with the L plate on.

[Eyegasm]

I've said it once before... and I'll say it again, I love my L plate.

[davereid]

Insurance reform act 1977 might get you clear.

Your learners motorcycle licence to drive is conditional on you using a bike of 250cc or less, that has an L plate.

That's the only vehicle covered by your motorcycle learners licence. You aren't licensed for a 650, Mums car, or Dads B-Train, or a 125 that does not have L plates.

Its not like not having rego or a WOF. Being unlicensed for the class of vehicle you are driving is an easy out for an insurer that chose to play the game the hard way.

It would be an amazingly anal insurer who chose to deny you insurance because your L plate had just fallen off. A slightly less anal insurer who chose to deny it because you chose to ride without it.

But, such insurers exist, and the chance of finding one is directly related to the cost of the payout.

And I hope you are keeping my 1100 polished, and it is not out in the rain. So there.

[Gone Burger]

I've said it once before... and I'll say it again, I love my L plate.

You sure do sunshine don't you? And you are SUCH a good boy the sticks to 70 on your L-Plate too - most impressed with your discipline!

Go on - get your restricted - I DARE you! I'll even let you keep you L-plate on when you graduate. Always easy to find you on a ride when you have a yellow tag to follow.

[aprilia_RS250]

I've ridden with the L plate on and off. And to be honest I've never noticed anyone tailgating me.

Personally I don't think the L plate is bad. After all it only says you don't have much experience riding a bike on the ROAD, which is true.

What I do think is really f*cking stupid and dangerous is the 70km/h top speed limit. Yuh like I'm gonna ride 70km/h on the motorway when a 10 tonne truck is doing 100 behind me.

[Eyegasm]

You sure do sunshine don't you? And you are SUCH a good boy the sticks to 70 on your L-Plate too - most impressed with your discipline!

Go on - get your restricted - I DARE you! I'll even let you keep you L-plate on when you graduate. Always easy to find you on a ride when you have a yellow tag to follow.

Of course I stick to 70kph (x2)

And don't dare me, I might just go and do it.

[Neshi]

It would be an amazingly anal insurer who chose to deny you insurance because your L plate had just fallen off. A slightly less anal insurer who chose to deny it because you chose to ride without it.

It's not like I will tell my insurer I chose to ride without the L-plate, neither would I tell the police that. I will tell them how it is, "the L-plate fell of while riding.. sorry officer, I will get another one asap." If they insist on giving me a ticket for it I will talk to them about the stupid rules of the learner license, especially the 70k limit and how that is endangering myself and other road users.

haven't had any problems for 4 months.. those last two will be fine.

[KelvinAng]

Worked a treat for me as an early learner, wonder if others ever found them helpful?

I had them on all the time when I was on my Learner's. I think they had been helpful for me. Then again I'm one of those who don't mind wearing a bright florescent vest when riding in poor lighting conditions...

I don't recall now being tailgated or overtaken when I rode my bikes with or without the "L" plate, but definitely had incidents when I rode my scooters regardless of having the "L" plate or not, even though I always keep to 50-ish km/hr speeds. Similarly my Toyota MR2 was almost never overtaken, but my Mitsubishi L300 van is frequently overtaken when doing the same speeds (~100-ish km/hr on the open roads). Just one of those driver behaviour quirks

[Gone Burger]

Ahhhh nice to see you upgraded to a bloody super bike there Kelvin too!

[Dutchee]

I'm sure I've only ridden once with an L plate. Was picking up a new bike, it ran like a dog and struggled to do the speed limit. My husband told me to rip the plate off, but I refused. Struggled to get up a hill (not even a hill, more a bump in the road) with a car behind me, but the car didn't get shitty with me holding it up, probably saw the plate and figured I had no idea what I was doing.
When I went for my full years back, I didn't bother putting a plate on the scooter and got away with that. The cop testing me had decided I was a waste of time, and sent me up the road (didn't quite catch his instructions so went for a 5 second ride), he then wandered back into the station to do some paperwork or whatever. I went to the counter when I came back, filled in whatever paperwork was required and merrily went on my way. No wonder there's talk about weetbix licences. Mine was a definite joke.

[KelvinAng]

Ahhhh nice to see you upgraded to a bloody super bike there Kelvin too!

I know, "death-trap" and all

[Spearfish]

I'm not sure that would swing.

http://www.legislation.co.nz/act/pub...html#DLM442558

Insurance reform act 1977 might get you clear.

Trying to read that link made my eyes bleed.

On or off the L plate has to be a contributing factor but they can get snaky if there is no other party who "caused" it, the secretive "Lone Bin" in other works.


Its funny how car drivers consider they are being held up by the smallest and the largest vehicles on the road regardless of speed or acceleration.

[John_H]

It's all a myth that people intentionally intimidate L plate riders. Just an excuse people use to not display them as they feel inferior with them on. I agree with Katie that it explains to othe road users why your kangaroo hopping away from the light

[mattian]

I had people tailgating me on my learners, and my restricted and even now on my full. As a learner it probably seems more noticeable and intimidating while you settle on your own strategy for dealing with it. They are not going to disappear just because you get your full licence and a bigger bike.