Aftermarket wheels for new National SUPERBIKE rules

[Shaun]

Its what I kinda eluded to before, add lightweight wheels and yes you do have to change the suspension but it realistically goes beyond that with Superbikes as wheelie control becomes the biggest headache. Little wonder that there are lots of electronic aids, that stuff is not there for show.

So obviously to your average Road rider, track day rider, average race rider, if they want there bike to handle well still, they are going to NEED suspension mods to gain the true benefit from light weight wheels, if any to be had on the race track on a 1000 with NO Traction controll etc.

And I would claim! That I could adjust a standard chassis suspension set up, to achieve better turn in, ( 76 Customers on this site alone over the last 12 months are Very happy) for way way less than a set of BLING wheels ( And they are dam cool to look at, Probbally around $250-00 would achieve this

[Pussy]

Nope. It's called just that, inertia. Hold ya spinning bycycle wheel by the axle horizontal and tell me which way the force is acting on the wheel. Thought so, there's only two. The force of gravity and the force of your arms holding the wheel up. Forces go in one direction, not every direction.

What about gyroscopic precession?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Nope. It's called just that, inertia. Hold ya spinning bycycle wheel by the axle horizontal and tell me which way the force is acting on the wheel. Thought so, there's only two. The force of gravity and the force of your arms holding the wheel up. Forces go in one direction, not every direction.

Sheesh. Should've stayed at school longer! But what happens when you try and turn said wheel while it's spinning? It only wants to go straight ahead.

[cowpoos]

Tell ya what else is quite awesome. All this quoting of "gyroscopic forces". If we're going to get technical (and someone else started it) there is no such thing as a gyroscopic or centrifugal "force". This was taught in 5th form physics.

Drew tell you that mate?? or are you making a play on the real but oddly named 'fictitious force' [inertial force].

[Drew]

I note that you can still spend - Thousands of Bucks on Suspension System Mod's that have to be tuned at everty race meeting for every track - Perhaps some FACTS ON WHAT THE COST OF ALL THESE MUTLIPLE VARIABLES CAN COST TO DEAL WITH????

One more thing, Robert gives away nearly all of the hours labour at EVERY race meeting to twiddle with the suspension of anyone that asks for his help, weather it's his gear or not. We pay for some replacement parts, but most of the time it's a swap for what we've got that is coming out, and a bribe of a bottle of wine to get to the front of the queue.

The same can be said of Shaun Harris I'm told, although I have no personal experience in dealing with him.

[cowpoos]

Nope. It's called just that, inertia. Hold ya spinning bycycle wheel by the axle horizontal and tell me which way the force is acting on the wheel. Thought so, there's only two. The force of gravity and the force of your arms holding the wheel up. Forces go in one direction, not every direction.

put water in a bucket and spin in round and round...

[White trash]

What about gyroscopic precession?

I don't think that's a "force" either is it? More like a byproduct when a spinning object is twisted or knocked on it's axis. Once again, it doesn't occur in one particular direction.

Could be wrong, I've been mistaken on a few more than one occasions

[Drew]

Drew tell you that mate?? or are you making a play on the real but oddly named 'fictitious force' [inertial force].

He told me years ago, then I learnt it in physics. He just happens to be way better at retaining the info, and describing it to others.

[White trash]

put water in a bucket and spin in round and round...

It's inertia that holds the water in the bucket mate. Not a force.

Edit: Holy fuck this thread's heading off topic now.

[Drew]

put water in a bucket and spin in round and round...

That's nothing more than momentum ya cock knocker. The water is trying to go directly forward from the last direction it was pushed. We've had this argument, and with Jimmy's help I won.

[White trash]

Sheesh. Should've stayed at school longer! But what happens when you try and turn said wheel while it's spinning? It only wants to go straight ahead.

I think that's the inertia once again of each point of the wheel wanting to continue in it's current trajectory. Once you've twisted it, it's then a bitch to get back to straight ahead.

But I'm reasonably confident that true forces occur in one direction at a time. I'd have to dig out my school C physics book to explain it properly but it makes pretty good sense.

[Shaun]

To The Locco'n'Motion

I have a plan that will be good for you, but Not the average broke NZ racer

I would like to contract you to become the distibutor of a Quality product manufactured by my company

Then I would require that you choose a rider to support them with, then have that rider DO HIS BEST to promote your product, on a public forum.

He could use words like this for example " There is a RUMOR" Now I do understand the difference between Rumor and a Deffinate Rule change, as most intelligent folks would, but apparently I do not fit into that group, O well. But would prefer that you promote some one using my product who does not operate on rumors, or get rude and abusive at the potentuall clients out there.

And if a debate was ever to happen on the net, I would also ask that you both DO NOT try and drag another product down to try and high light your own agenda;s please, this is the worst and lowest form of sales man ship I have ever seen.

Your product is good, fact.

[Pussy]

I don't think that's a "force" either is it? More like a byproduct when a spinning object is twisted or knocked on it's axis. Once again, it doesn't occur in one particular direction.

Could be wrong, I've been mistaken on a few more than one occasions

It is a "force", or at least the resultant.
A spinning object will move 90 degrees in the direction that the force was applied.
This tendency is the principle behind how gyroscopes in aircraft etc work

[Robert Taylor]

It is a "force", or at least the resultant.
A spinning object will move 90 degrees in the direction that the force was applied.
This tendency is the principle behind how gyroscopes in aircraft etc work

But what then is the air speed velocity of an African Swallow carrying two coconuts under its wings? And how does that affect its trajectory when pulling out of a dive?

[White trash]

It is a "force", or at least the resultant.
A spinning object will move 90 degrees in the direction that the force was applied.
This tendency is the principle behind how gyroscopes in aircraft etc work

Exactly. The resultant. It aint a force if it needed a force applied to it to create it.