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    To Mr Locco Motion

    I have stood back from posting on this but something got up my nose on a post you made ehreabout no new zealanders out there doing the international thing basically what you said cant find your post you said it on but have you got your facts right??????

    You do know Dominic Jone's from down South is in the AMA racing??????

    And to those that say say Shaun is a selfish wanker (which I am not saying he is as I know Shaun well enough he knows I am not meaning that)

    Shaun has alot of involvement in rider's if you knew how much effort he puts in and time and money is unbelievable!

    I got the opportunity to pit with his team a few years back at Nationals and the ammount of people coming in and out of the pits getting bikes worked on was heaps

    Plus Shaun was a big involvement of Dom Jones going over to AMA

    also as of lately he has been a MASSIVE help to my younger brother who is now racing Supersport if it wasnt for Shaun's help he would not be any were near were he is.


    I AM NOT trying to kiss his arse either I just get FUCKED OFF when someone who has a massive involvment in the New Zealand Racing scene is knocked as being Selfish
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixerracer View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixerracer View Post
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    I'll take one if you win the superbike championship this season, even without lightweight wheels!!
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    Lol, this thread has a few gems.

    Mr Whitetrash, Inertia is not a force. It is a constant used to measure how hard a round thing is to spin (or moreso accelerate and decelerate). It is proportional to its radius and mass, hence why lightweight wheels have less inertia than standard ones. They also use 16.5" rims in motogp etc to decrease this value.

    The force that is derived from the inertia value (of a wheel for instance) is angular momentum. Angular momentum is proportional to the speed something is spinning and also its inertia constant. Again this is helpful with lighter rims when you want to change direction. When an object that has angular momentum has a force appled to move it (i.e tipping into a corner) a force is created that is at right angles to the direction the wheels is spinning. This makes it harder to tip the bike into the corner etc.

    What mr cowpoos is referring to is centripetal acceleration, that is what keeps the water in the bucket when spinning around. Too late to explain that any more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by k14 View Post
    Lol, this thread has a few gems.

    Mr Whitetrash, Inertia is not a force. It is a constant used to measure how hard a round thing is to spin (or moreso accelerate and decelerate). It is proportional to its radius and mass, hence why lightweight wheels have less inertia than standard ones. They also use 16.5" rims in motogp etc to decrease this value.

    The force that is derived from the inertia value (of a wheel for instance) is angular momentum. Angular momentum is proportional to the speed something is spinning and also its inertia constant. Again this is helpful with lighter rims when you want to change direction. When an object that has angular momentum has a force appled to move it (i.e tipping into a corner) a force is created that is at right angles to the direction the wheels is spinning. This makes it harder to tip the bike into the corner etc.

    What mr cowpoos is referring to is centripetal acceleration, that is what keeps the water in the bucket when spinning around. Too late to explain that any more!

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    Fulla Crap

    Oh I see it now - You can't argue with the Physic's of the Issue relating to wheels so we are onto cost.

    Where did you get the $4500 from???

    I have prices for racers that don't look anything like that maybe nearer to two sets for that price who know's - if you don't ask you don't get.

    One thing is for sure - my sock isn't full of Crap.

    Choice is a wonderful thing - Hey you don't have to buy the wheels - since when is choice such a serious Crime.

    And yea I think that pricing is always a two way street cost what I give for what I charge is an altogether different thing that what the big boys are doing in the USA.

    I don't spend a lot of time dreaming about becoming rich from the Motorcycle Wheels business that is for sure so give me a break - with all you guys out there Broke as I shouldn't expect to either.

    It astounds me though how much money gets puffed up in smoke and pissed up against a wall and by my reckoning a couple of sets of wheels could be bought from a years pusuit of that so hey its what you want at the end of the day that will drive what you spend your money on for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpoos View Post
    Your full of crap... and at $4500 a set.. --> http://www.loccomotion.com/rjzc/inde...roducts_id=210 your fucking dreaming as well...I just got a price from a large USA website that ships here...$2600 for gsxr1000 09-10 kit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Locco'n'Motion View Post
    Oh I see it now - You can't argue with the Physic's of the Issue relating to wheels so we are onto cost.
    No, it's want vs need. You WANT to sell the wheels, you WANT us to change the rules so we NEED the wheels.

    As a country, MNZ has decided we don't NEED the wheels.

    Never doubted the benefit in a pure sense, but the world is not pure like that.

    The same argument could be applied to carbon brakes. Wey hey guys, this'll help your bike turn better, stop better, less unsprung weight. Do we NEED them? No.

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    A Fun Read For a Wet Sunday

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    Quote Originally Posted by malcy25 View Post
    No, it's want vs need. You WANT to sell the wheels, you WANT us to change the rules so we NEED the wheels.

    As a country, MNZ has decided we don't NEED the wheels.

    Never doubted the benefit in a pure sense, but the world is not pure like that.

    The same argument could be applied to carbon brakes. Wey hey guys, this'll help your bike turn better, stop better, less unsprung weight. Do we NEED them? No.

    Goodnight, I'm checking out, bed calls. Thanks for the fun reading on a wet Sunday folks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    Allowing an aftermarket rear shock but not aftermarket forks is a little like allowing a carbon rear rim, but not a front one isint it?
    There's no hidden OEM manufacturer's agenda, it's really just about cost. Aftermarket forks are uber expensive. I thought it was pure PR bullshit but that Ohlins kit Dr Bob put on my bike will soon pay for itself as my tyres literally last twice as long yet I'm pushing them a lot harder. Can't see 4 x lightweight wheels (+ more when I crash) paying for themselves but I could be wrong.


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    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    There's no hidden OEM manufacturer's agenda, it's really just about cost. Aftermarket forks are uber expensive. I thought it was pure PR bullshit but that Ohlins kit Dr Bob put on my bike will soon pay for itself as my tyres literally last twice as long yet I'm pushing them a lot harder. Can't see 4 x lightweight wheels (+ more when I crash) paying for themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    There's no hidden OEM manufacturer's agenda, it's really just about cost. Aftermarket forks are uber expensive. I thought it was pure PR bullshit but that Ohlins kit Dr Bob put on my bike will soon pay for itself as my tyres literally last twice as long yet I'm pushing them a lot harder. Can't see 4 x lightweight wheels (+ more when I crash) paying for themselves
    What if there cheaper then OEM?

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    Im glad everyone has taken so much interest in a class they have nothing to do with. MNZ must have a hell of a time wading through all this sort of shit to try come up with some rules.

    A meeting with the 8 riders that bothered to race the Nats and im sure we could have had no hassles

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHOPPA View Post
    Im glad everyone has taken so much interest in a class they have nothing to do with. MNZ must have a hell of a time wading through all this sort of shit to try come up with some rules.

    A meeting with the 8 riders that bothered to race the Nats and im sure we could have had no hassles
    We get it bro, spare wheels for your superbike are uber expensive. Find a wheel that's similar and have an engineer make it fit. Only use them when it's wet and hopefully no one will protest.

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