MAG-NZ launches in New Zealand

**MadDuck** · 30th August 2010, 20:18

Originally Posted by Capt. Crunch

I'll definitely be there if there will be lunch

We thought you might like to organise that ....

**Okey Dokey** · 30th August 2010, 20:58

Encouraging advanced rider training sounds a good platform to push. Like others here, I've paid out and done specific mc training both on road and on track with licenced instructors.

Insurance companies don't reduce your premiums in recognition of what you have completed. In fact they discourage you- my excess was doubled when I did track based training.

ACC doesn't take your training or safety record into account when setting your levy. Only the cc of your machine.

It would be great to see progress in these areas.

**Maha** · 30th August 2010, 21:15

We have a number of individual ART's in mind they we would like to support by way linking thier website to the MAG website. Its an issue we feel can be pushed but also realise that, its a personal choice for each individual biker.

**Okey Dokey** · 30th August 2010, 21:21

Well, that is good. Having linkys on your site is doing something. And obviously the trainers stand to benefit the most if more people are encouraged to undertake ART. So maybe they can lead the way a bit on this particular issue.

I appreciate your answering my thoughts so quickly; it bodes well for MAG NZ that you can listen and respond, I think. Cheers.

**Maha** · 30th August 2010, 21:25

Originally Posted by Okey Dokey

Well, that is good. Having linkys on your site is doing something. And obviously the trainers stand to benefit the most if more people are encouraged to undertake ART. So maybe they can lead the way a bit on this particular issue.

I appreciate your answering my thoughts so quickly; it bodes well for MAG NZ that you can listen and respond, I think. Cheers.

My pleasure, I hope you will get in and support MAG-NZ (Christchurch)

**PhantasmNZ** · 30th August 2010, 21:34

Originally Posted by Okey Dokey

Encouraging advanced rider training sounds a good platform to push. Like others here, I've paid out and done specific mc training both on road and on track with licenced instructors.

Insurance companies don't reduce your premiums in recognition of what you have completed. In fact they discourage you- my excess was doubled when I did track based training.

ACC doesn't take your training or safety record into account when setting your levy. Only the cc of your machine.

It would be great to see progress in these areas.

Quite interested to hear your story about how the insurance company doubled your excess, we have an story on our site detailing another member's experience with insurance companies following a claim for protective equipment.

What was the response of the insurance company when you explained that you were performing advanced training to improve your safety. Did they increase your excess overall, or just whilst you were preforming the training?

**HappyGOriding** · 30th August 2010, 21:58

on the thoughts of advanced rider training I think it should be made complusory as part of gaining your full license

Also big ups to all those invovled in getting MAG NZ up and running another voice out there is great.
Me thinks first up stop all these roading companies from taking out all the bloody corners

**PhantasmNZ** · 30th August 2010, 22:16

Originally Posted by HappyGOriding

on the thoughts of advanced rider training I think it should be made complusory as part of gaining your full licenses

My thoughts would be that training that the rider "wants" to do will always be more effective than the training s/he is "forced" to do - there is a drive to succeed and improve vs. a barrier that just needs to be overcome..... in this sense the personal choice of the rider becomes a major benefit not disadvantage

**Bodir** · 30th August 2010, 22:19

Originally Posted by HappyGOriding

Me thinks first up stop all these roading companies from taking out all the bloody corners

I hope you were trying to say we should encourage the roading companies to taking out all those roads, right

Perfect solution to getting the road toll down to zero

**Mom** · 30th August 2010, 22:20

Originally Posted by PhantasmNZ

My thoughts would be that training that the rider "wants" to do will always be more effective than the training s/he is "forced" to do - there is a drive to succeed and improve vs. a barrier that just needs to be overcome..... in this sense the personal choice of the rider becomes a major benefit not disadvantage

Thank goodness you are part of MAG-NZ.

**Mom** · 30th August 2010, 22:24

Originally Posted by Bodir

I hope you were trying to say we should encourage the roading companies to taking out all those roads, right

Perfect solution to getting the road toll down to zero

Just because you have the dual purpose machine, we dont all ride off road you know

**The Stranger:Me** · 30th August 2010, 22:52

Originally Posted by Katman

How about getting a shit load of flyers out to motorcycle businesses?

Oh to be so young and naive. Will that help them sell bikes or affect their bottom line in the short term?
Been done, many times by both BRONZ and ACC. The boxes of flyers are of course useful, they reduce our ACC as the boxes of flyers stop the doors slamming on people - but hey maybe the motorcycle businesses have wised up over the last few years and realised that repeat business is easier than new business.
For some reason I remain sceptical.
Anyway go the mark and anne show! Perhaps your time is right. Then again, they say that those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Either way, I'm sure fracturing a minority has it's benefits.