Carrying pillion on restricted

[hellokitty]

The restricted license holders of today are pros, gods even. They have the experience of a thousand old riders who've done a meeelion k's.

Yeah right.


Mate, you're still a noob (Dont be offended, most of us are). Maybe it'd be a different story if you were a month away from your full with plenty of experience, not a month into your R. You're at Auckland Uni, join the club and take advantage of some of our rider training subsidies (A day at RRRS will cost you $25 with us), find out what you dont yet know and then evaluate whether its a good idea to be taking passengers.

In answer to your question, it wont be the gear that they'll pick on you for, it'll be everything else.

i am on a full license but I am still a noob - I have bugger all experience really. The best thing about being on a restricted license for me was that I could honestly tell people that I wasn't legally allowed to take pillions.
Now I have my full license, my non riding friends want me to pillion them - there is no way I would take anyone but a very experienced rider as a passenger, as I would have no idea what to do it they did something stupid

[Banditbandit]

Now I have my full license, my non riding friends want me to pillion them - there is no way I would take anyone but a very experienced rider as a passenger, as I would have no idea what to do it they did something stupid

And many experienced riders know - riders make very very bad pillions. I hate being on the back of someone else's bike ... Everyone has a slightly different riding style ... which means that the rider, in the pillion's mind, is doing everything not quite right ...

Not that I say anything, or don't do what a pillion should ... it just makes me bloody nervous ...

[hellokitty]

And many experienced riders know - riders make very very bad pillions. I hate being on the back of someone else's bike ... Everyone has a slightly different riding style ... which means that the rider, in the pillion's mind, is doing everything not quite right ...

Not that I say anything, or don't do what a pillion should ... it just makes me bloody nervous ...

As a young kid I loved being a passenger, but as an adult I have been on the back of a bike twice and hated every minute of it, I was terrified - I hate the feeling of having no control. And we were only doing 50km around the block which took 10 minutes.......

[PrincessBandit]

And many experienced riders know - riders make very very bad pillions. I hate being on the back of someone else's bike ... Everyone has a slightly different riding style ... which means that the rider, in the pillion's mind, is doing everything not quite right ...

Not that I say anything, or don't do what a pillion should ... it just makes me bloody nervous ...

I enjoy being a pillion but will only ever go on the back of a bike with someone I honestly trust with my life.
I can count those people on one hand.

[Grubber]

I enjoy being a pillion but will only ever go on the back of a bike with someone I honestly trust with my life.
I can count those people on one hand.

Ditto PB. I have one mate who i would trust with my life. He is the same guy that i would allow to ride mine. No-one else even gets a look in FULLSTOP.

[Spazman727]

An interesting series of thoughts there. And most have covered in the responses. I think from another angle:

1. She is comfortable riding with you - an inexperienced rider with no depth of understanding of riding as you seem to think gear is there so cops won't pull you over.

2. She likes that you feel comfortable that if you have an accident with her as pillion that you will maim her (or haven't you explained the risks to her - pillions can end up worse than riders in an accident)

3. Her over-confidence in your abilities got their somehow - and personally I think its the 10 foot tall and bullet proof thing that you seem to have

4. Your only concern is that you might get caught breaking the law - and not breaking her is touching.

Perhaps, as said in the other posts you should, maybe, think about why these restrictions are there.

1. Your knowledge of riding is limited
2. Your ability to handle situations thrown at you on a bike is limited thus far
3. Your bullet proof attitude is flawed.

Or just look at the risk profile of what you are undertaking - and go through it with her. She doesn't seem to understand the risks she is taking let alone the ones that you are.

1. Gear offers a minimum of protection
2. Experience counts (not for everything but goes a long way towards it)

I don't think gear is only so cops wont pull me over, and I know I'm inexperienced which is why I only take her short distances on roads I know well and have ridden on lots before. And I, although this isn't as good as real life experience, I have practised emergency manoeuvres with her on the back in a car park. Thanks for all your advice and I'm goin to think again before I take anyone on the back again.

[PirateJafa]

And many experienced riders know - riders make very very bad pillions. I hate being on the back of someone else's bike ... Everyone has a slightly different riding style ... which means that the rider, in the pillion's mind, is doing everything not quite right ...

Not that I say anything, or don't do what a pillion should ... it just makes me bloody nervous ...

Not so. Thani-B is a excellent rider, and also a excellent pillion.

However, I'm bloody awful at both.